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The Star: iPod, iPhone and soon iYonge St.

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iPod, iPhone and soon iYonge St.
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In a bid to build a Canadian "Silicon Valley" of digital brainpower that can reboot the economy, three Ontario universities are planning a joint graduate program in downtown Toronto to tackle the challenges posed by new media and keep techno-talent in this country.

In the vision shared by Ryerson University, the University of Toronto and the University of Waterloo, the strip of Yonge St. from Gould St. to Gerrard St. would become a "digital destination" in a few short years.

It will be a corridor of i-research and "high-end digital stores all in one cluster that hums with activity," said Ryerson president Sheldon Levy in a speech yesterday to the Empire Club.

"This thing that young people use so much – the iPhone, the iPod technology – is what we're all going to use in future for banking, news, everything, but there are huge problems in making this change, from privacy issues to bandwidth," Levy told the sold-out lunch crowd at the Royal York Hotel.

"Whoever can figure this out will be the leaders in the new economy. Our goal is to devise made-in-Toronto solutions for i-banking, i-business, i-news, i-industry, i-medicine and i-everything," said Levy.

Copies of his address were provided on a digital memory stick, as well as on paper. He said Ryerson will become more digital-savvy this fall by making academic records available to students on their smart phones.

The University of Waterloo is excited about helping build a joint think tank of techno-whizzes who can help business adapt to new technology, said arts dean Ken Coates.

"We know Ontario has done well creating the tools of technology – look at RIM (BlackBerry designer Research In Motion) and Open Text (Waterloo-based software producer) – but the future lies in designing ways to use these tools, and this is a sweet spot for Ontario," Coates said.

"The new economy will be driven more by the use of technology than the making of technology," he said, citing companies that are working to adapt the social network technology of Facebook and YouTube to the way they deal with staff and even clients.

"This is the fastest-growing sector the world has ever seen, and we want to bring together people from engineering, the humanities, performing arts and a range of disciplines to work together to solve real-world problems," Coates said.

A University of Toronto spokesperson confirmed the university is also part of the joint talks about a digital-focused graduate program.

In his address on "Building Universities and Cities for the Digital Age," Levy also noted Ryerson is in talks with the City of Toronto to "reinvent Gould St. by turning it into a pedestrian plaza with cafes and green spaces," which would be part of the future digital hub.

"How much of Gould St. is closed, and what hours trucks will be allowed to make deliveries is all under discussion," said Levy, "and I can promise that trucks and cars will be inconvenienced.

"But we are talking with the city about when this will move forward, not if. Everyone supports the idea."

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What a load of BS. The only way this country will succeed in this field is to revolutionize the mobile marketplace. The fact is that our country is years behind when it comes to the adoption of wireless technology and anyone thinking they know technology by adding an "i" to the front of any word is just embarrassing.

The teaching in europe around interactive education is lightyears ahead of what we have in this country and just creating a campus doesn't do anything to solve the problem.

Have a look through some of the entries of each years Europrix top talent awards. These awards are given out each year to students and young innovators to give them access to companies and venture capital to fully complete their visions. Last.fm was invented by a group of students who won an award a couple of years ago at this festival.
 
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I really think this is being led by some upper management who have no idea what they are talking about.

Just adding electronics stores to this section of Yonge will not make it the hub of technology they are looking for.

The only people who buy iCrap are the retards who don't know how to write computer programs or do math.
 
"Whoever can figure this out will be the leaders in the new economy. Our goal is to devise made-in-Toronto solutions for i-banking, i-business, i-news, i-industry, i-medicine and i-everything," said Levy.

The point is that other people have already "figured this out" and are in the process if implementing it.

By the time these guys get around to figuring it out, something else will have already come along.
 
What a load of BS. The only way this country will succeed in this field is to revolutionize the mobile marketplace. The fact is that our country is years behind when it comes to the adoption of wireless technology and anyone thinking they know technology by adding an "i" to the front of any word is just embarrassing.

The teaching in europe around interactive education is lightyears ahead of what we have in this country and just creating a campus doesn't do anything to solve the problem.

Have a look through some of the entries of each years Europrix top talent awards. These awards are given out each year to students and young innovators to give them access to companies and venture capital to fully complete their visions. Last.fm was invented by a group of students who won an award a couple of years ago at this festival.

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I think Toronto does need some sort of "electronics district", given how tech-savvy many Torontonians are. I think Yonge Street, anchored by Future Shop and Best Buy, could turn into something like Tokyo's Akihabara or Hong Kong's Sai Yeung Choi Street in Mongkok - lined with not just big-name electronics chains but also smaller, independently-run stores selling more specialized items (spare electronics parts, accessories, webcams and (ahem) fake DVDs).
 
To some extent, College west of Spadina passes for "electronics district" around here.
 
I think Toronto does need some sort of "electronics district", given how tech-savvy many Torontonians are. I think Yonge Street, anchored by Future Shop and Best Buy, could turn into something like Tokyo's Akihabara or Hong Kong's Sai Yeung Choi Street in Mongkok - lined with not just big-name electronics chains but also smaller, independently-run stores selling more specialized items (spare electronics parts, accessories, webcams and (ahem) fake DVDs).

That's nice and all, but that won't make it into a silicon valley. You gotta be developing stuff to be that. Anyhow we will never make it the same as akiharabara. They have so many gadgets we will never have here. We don't have the technologies or development they do. In Korea, people are watching tv on their phones. Bandwidth costs so much here. It's a monopoly. We get phones that are 2-3 yrs behind Asia. And our bandwidth costs and arm and a leg.
 
That's nice and all, but that won't make it into a silicon valley. You gotta be developing stuff to be that. Anyhow we will never make it the same as akiharabara. They have so many gadgets we will never have here. We don't have the technologies or development they do. In Korea, people are watching tv on their phones. Bandwidth costs so much here. It's a monopoly. We get phones that are 2-3 yrs behind Asia. And our bandwidth costs and arm and a leg.

It's true there's been no implementation of TV on mobiles here in Canada. the US has it, and as far as I can tell, no one uses. It doesn't seem like a popular idea in North America. I guess it's one of those things that doesn't translate well. Another example being video calling. Although we have that (whereas the US doesn't).

As for our phones being 2-3 years behind Asia, that's pretty much a load of crap.

What technologies do they have in Asia we don't have exactly? Their mobiles use CDMA 2000 and WCDMA over there. Bell and Telus use the former, and Rogers/Fido uses the latter.

You know Japan got the Blackberry Bold AFTER we did? That is to say, Rogers released it before AT&T or NTT Docomo.

Japan simply has different tastes in cell phones. They prefer gigantic flip phones. They're so big compared to ours I hesitate to call them flips. Here we're all about cheap flips and now touchscreens. But the high end phones are pretty much the same here and there. We both have the iPhone after all.
 
Well, phone wise for example in designs. In Korea I noticed they had slider phones since before 2003. But here I only noticed the slider phones in the past few years. Also, since 2 years ago or more, they've gone past just slider phones. They developed twist phones. I'm not sure if they have twist phones here yet. The Sony W61s and W62s was released early last year. I don't know if or when we will have similar types here.
http://www.multicellphone.com/sony-ericsson-w61s-and-w62s-for-japan/

As for the japanese cell phones being big. I didn't notice them big at all. They're pretty cute looking and so many designs. I think it's usually us envying Asian cell phones more than Asia envying our cell phones.
 
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TV on mobiles? Is that like a bunch of mini-Philcos suspended from a Sandy Calder apparatus?
 
here's another example of being behind. I saw this concept in a Hong Kong drama 5 years ago or so. This is shown in this month's condo magazine

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TV not the same

TV on mobile phones here is not the same as TV on mobile phones in asia.

They use HD airwaves over there to send their Mobile TV signals. Here in North America, through Bell or whatever US provider, they will use a data stream which cuts into the bandwidth of the provider. This will never be mainstream, and that is why they no longer advertise these (Bell had a campaign for phone TV 2-3 years ago).

The main difference is mobile phone users in asia DO NOT pay for the TV channels. They are over the air. Bell charged your arm and a leg, and a lengthy contract just to give you 10 crappy channels.

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To wyliepoon, my advice to you, Best Buy and Futureshop are not good places to buy electronics. Anything they sell you can find for 20% cheaper somewhere else. Anyone who is in computers will tell you this. Bartering at College & Spadina is your best option, or finding a good online retailer.
 
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