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There's just nothing to focus your eye on.

Unless you're referring solely to the ground level, I strongly disagree -- certainly the interior corner on the southwest side of the building is both eye-catching and eye-watering, as one tries to work out what is the corner and what is the reflection. It's a bit like Escher in solid form.

Even when going for a fully-glazed expression, it's beneficial to introduce different qualities of glass, touches of texture such as metal extrusions
The whole approach of the building involves two very different forms of glass, demarcating different projections of the form. And the second level does have the nice touch of oxidized metal strips that in colour recall the brick of the nearby buildings.

Its proportions are clumsy and the streetscape along King Street is completely unsympathetic and out of scale with the rest of the street

With Time and Space and other projects going up nearby, it will be very much in scale with building in the area.
 

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There are no oxidized metal strips on this project- the vertical fins are what I presume to be an aluminum finish.

(Even if they were some sort of corten - I would never buy the idea that it's a response to the context. But that's a moot point given the above.)

As for the stacked effect and that neat trick of the eye at the southwest corner, it's an interesting moment in the design but does not a good building make.
 
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Yes, Time and Space is a horrible project, but projects like that are setting the scale for the neighbourhood. It's my understanding that the Staples lot is to be redeveloped as well, and certainly it currently is not in keeping with the form of King Street further west. I think the Globe and Mail building simply marks the southern endpoint of the lower-midrise buildings of old King. Past Berkeley the western character of the street largely dissolves.

And sure, the vertical strips on the building are not corten, but I think it is pretty clear that they are contextual -- they provide a warm, palette-compatible strip of colour at the same height at the surrounding buildings, softening the glass:

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If one wants to argue about poor impact on streetscape, the SAS building across the street is a far better example, with its weird metal columned colonnade.
 

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Was at a condo meeting earlier tonight, and a fellow resident had mentioned that there was a rumour of some retail, tied to St. Lawrence Market taking up the front of the building. Was wondering if anyone had anything on this
 

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There's definitely retail going into the entire King side of the building (there are For Lease signs), and I believe the eastern section is already leased, based on the signs there.
 

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With the sidewalk work ongoing, I've started to wonder how they are going to replace the trees. I'd assumed that they'd construct cells between the sidewalk and the road. But apparently not (from Thursday).

Does anyone know what the plan is? Probably discussed earlier and I missed ...

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With the sidewalk work ongoing, I've started to wonder how they are going to replace the trees. I'd assumed that they'd construct cells between the sidewalk and the road. But apparently not (from Thursday).

Does anyone know what the plan is? Probably discussed earlier and I missed ...
Ah yes, the trees! The St Lawrence Neighbourhood Association and the St Lawrence BIA are 'not happy" about the removal of the trees but it is, apparently, a 'done deal". First Gulf had to repair the sidewalk on King in front of their new building and at same time wanted to raise the level of it in front of the former Sun newspaper part of the King frontage to create level entrances. This all seemed like a good idea but then ..... We received the following from First Gulf :

"With regards, to tree pits, you (and your neighbours) are correct to identify no new tree pits. We have worked hard with the City of Toronto and others in the past (like yourselves) to come up with a design that would accommodate trees. We landed on a design that would include precast panels with pavers above to allow the appropriate soil depth and conditions for trees. This was not a typical City standard, and through the SPA and Streetscape approvals program, it became abundantly clear that not all City departments could agree that this was a feasible and acceptable solution. Ultimately the City’s engineering department required that the slabs would need to meet highway bridge requirements to accommodate the mounting or sitting of heavy vehicles. This would have increase the slab thickness to approximately 12” and would have required large amounts of rebar. Not only did this impact the cost exponentially, we were caught between best practices observed by some departments, City standards by others, and ultimately liability by the engineering department. We were caught in the middle of a complicated matter that was not resolved at the time and part of an ongoing working committee that was trying to establish the review and design of standards for tree plantings in boulevards that could accommodate heavier loads."
"We very much wanted trees along King Street East and unfortunately found it impossible to find a solution that appeased all City department and assured the well-being of and trees being planted. "

Translation. If they could not plant trees in proper tree trenches (too expensive!) they were not going to plant ANY trees and actually removed about a dozen quite healthy ones (which had survived very well in the old fashioned "holes' for decades. . For a huge corporation who clearly made LOTS of money on this development it is shameful and the City does not come across looking good either. Who authorised the removal of healthy trees? Who approved the removal of tree cover when it is City policy to plant MORE trees.
 

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UPDATE on Sidewalks and trees. They have now stopped putting down bricks and have filled in the area between concrete sidewalk and road with asphalt. This could mean that the City has forced them to stop and re-do things so that they can plant trees or they realised they had screwed up or it could mean they think asphalt looks better. I guess we will see! The SLNA, the BIA and Pam McConnell's office certainly expressed their annoyance about the senseless tree destruction.


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Has anyone heard about a retail leasee on the 2nd floor associated with the St Lawrence Market?
 

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UPDATE on Sidewalks and trees. They have now stopped putting down bricks and have filled in the area between concrete sidewalk and road with asphalt. This could mean that the City has forced them to stop and re-do things so that they can plant trees or they realised they had screwed up or it could mean they think asphalt looks better. I guess we will see! The SLNA, the BIA and Pam McConnell's office certainly expressed their annoyance about the senseless tree destruction.


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Here's how the trees looked one year ago (June 13, 2016):


 

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