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Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax targets

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AlvinofDiaspar

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From the Star:

Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax targets
Mar 16, 2007 10:56 AM
John Spears
City Hall Bureau

New taxing powers given to the City of Toronto could allow the city to rake in more than $400 million in extra revenue - if councillors have the political courage to whack residents with hefty new taxes.

A staff discussion paper, released today, lists a litany of new taxes the city could impose on residents. It provides a wide range of rates that could produce anywhere from $60 million to ore than $400 million in new revenue.

The new taxes aren't being recommended at this stage, and none will be included in this year's budget, but outline the options open to city council under Toronto's new powers.

Among the possible taxes, to be discussed by the city's executive committee later this month:

# An alcohol tax, charges at retail outlets like liquor and beer stores. A one per cent tax would raise $15 million a year; if councillors have the will to charge city residents an extra 10 per cent for their booze, it could scoop $121 million.

# A tobacco tax. It could raise from $6 million at a one per cent rate, to $43 million if a 110 per cent tax is imposed.

# A ticket tax on movies, theatre and sporting events: From $3 million from a one per cent tax, to $29 million for a 10 per cent tax.

# A land transfer tax, based on the value of the property sold. The city could grab up to $306 million if it wants to impose a 1.5 per cent tax. (That would amount to $4,500 on the sale of a $300,000 home or condo.) A more modest 0.1 per cent tax would produce $21 million in revenue.

# A parking tax, charged to the owner based on the area of a parking lot or the number of spaces, could produce $2 million to $18 million a year.

# A tax on motor vehicle registrations could produce from $11 million, from a $10 tax on each registration, to $81 million for an $80 tax.

# A billboard tax could produce $2.6 million a year.

AoD
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Looks like they have the basic vices covered. They forgot about sex toys however. So if you want to see a bluejay game you would pay city hall on parking, on your ticket and on your beer. Paying municipal tax to see a movie seems a bit off to me as well.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

the romans would be proud.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

# A tobacco tax. It could raise from $6 million at a one per cent rate, to $43 million if a 110 per cent tax is imposed.
Strongly in favour of this one strictly due to the cleanup costs of picking up cigarette butts.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

The problem faced by Toronto lies not with the amount of taxes collected, but with the distribution of taxes. If other levels of governemnt are stealing our tax dollars, the response should not be to charge city residents even more taxes. It should be to get our existing tax dollars back.

I do not support any new taxation until distribution issues are fixed.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Agreed, but we could be waiting a LONG time otherwise. Also, while they won't admit it, this is how the province thinks it is solving those "distribution issues."
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Report from the City:

www.toronto.ca/finance/pd...sfinal.pdf

Interestingly, the Star article did not mention road tolls (p. 81), whereby tolling DVP and Gardiner is projected to raise $123M/yr.

AoD
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Why not tax tampons and condoms? It seems like our city council is hell-bent on making us as uncompetitive with our surrounding regions as possible.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Why not just raise residential property taxes so they match those in surrounding regions?
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Nice to see that not much of these taxes concern me. I ...

don't drink,
don't smoke,
rarely go to the movies,
don't go to live theatre,
take in sports events at most once or twice a year,
not yet selling my house,
don't own parking spaces,
don't own a car,
certainly don't own a billboard.

So I guess I won't be making as much a contribution to funding Transit City as my smoking and/or drinking friends.

A parking tax, charged to the owner based on the area of a parking lot or the number of spaces, could produce $2 million to $18 million a year.

The Planning Act forces developers to build a required number of parking spaces in their projects or else pay the municipal government. If the Planning Act requirement for parking spaces was removed, this tax could potentially get a lot of developers to build transit-friendly developments without any parking.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

# An alcohol tax, charges at retail outlets like liquor and beer stores. A one per cent tax would raise $15 million a year; if councillors have the will to charge city residents an extra 10 per cent for their booze, it could scoop $121 million.

1% tax on alcohol whether you're stinking rich or poor.

# A tobacco tax. It could raise from $6 million at a one per cent rate, to $43 million if a 110 per cent tax is imposed.

1% tax on tobacco whether you're stinking rich or poor.

# A ticket tax on movies, theatre and sporting events: From $3 million from a one per cent tax, to $29 million for a 10 per cent tax.

10% tax on sport/cultural events whether you're stinking rich or poor.

# A land transfer tax, based on the value of the property sold. The city could grab up to $306 million if it wants to impose a 1.5 per cent tax. (That would amount to $4,500 on the sale of a $300,000 home or condo.) A more modest 0.1 per cent tax would produce $21 million in revenue.

# A billboard tax could produce $2.6 million a year.

It's a good thing that poor don't have extra money. Otherwise they could put what little they'd have of it, put it in a pot until they can afford to rent a HUGE BILLBOARD.

T.O. Forum decency-rules (plus my own) prevent me from suggesting what "message" The Poor might deliver via BILLBOARD.

Man, the people who need City governments the most are the ones most-blood-sucked by them.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

It's easy to knock the city for these proposed taxes, but they've been bullied into a corner by the other levels of government.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Plus the poor pay more per income in user fees, which include transit fares, recreation fees, school registration and supplimental fees.

What about a mandatory hotel tax of 5-10 percent as is the norm elsewhere? Tourists depend on transit, on roads, things like that.

Road tolls, a sales tax point (if GST is lowered again), etc, are fine with me. I'd also be willing to pay more in property tax, even income tax (I just did my taxes for the first time as a fully-employed non-student, and I am now paying property tax), if it lower user fees and better services.
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Hey there, SD2

You wrote:

It's easy to knock the city for these proposed taxes, but they've been bullied into a corner by the other levels of government.

Sure, I know that. But. It's not like the two other levels of government are on Alpha Centauri or something. We voted for them and it's just got to be bleak and corrosive-to-the-soul to be Minimum-Wage-Poor in this country and continue to be bled dry by politicians who profess to ... wait a sec...

No, they don't profess to care. Nevermind...
 
Re: Star: Booze, smokes, parking, movies could be tax target

Question for Toronto-types.

Your T.O. Waterfront parks --do you charge people for parking in them? Like meters in those parks? Or other parks?

Curious in Mississauga.
 

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