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Roads: Redway Road Extension / "Leaside bypass"

W. K. Lis

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The current urban unposted speed limit is 50 km/h. There is discussions going on requesting reducing the unposted speed limit.

Montréal reduced it to 40 km/h.

Yet, there are further discussions to reduce to to 30 km/h.

Toronto should reduce its unposted speed limit to 40 km/h, reducing it even further in school zones to 30 km/h.

Not going to happen with the current city administration.
 

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The current urban unposted speed limit is 50 km/h. There is discussions going on requesting reducing the unposted speed limit.

Montréal reduced it to 40 km/h.

Yet, there are further discussions to reduce to to 30 km/h.

Toronto should reduce its unposted speed limit to 40 km/h, reducing it even further in school zones to 30 km/h.

Not going to happen with the current city administration.

I bet the same people who complain about the dangerous traffic will oppose lowering the speed limit.
 

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Who was at fault? The driver or the little girl? If it was the driver he should be charged. If it was the little girl then it's a tragic accident. Either way it doesn't necessarily seem the roads are to blame. Or that we need to build bypasses.
 

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Who was at fault? The driver or the little girl? If it was the driver he should be charged. If it was the little girl then it's a tragic accident. Either way it doesn't necessarily seem the roads are to blame. Or that we need to build bypasses.

There is no consideration the there is something wrong with a system that rallies on a 6 year old to obey all traffic regulation. It could be that the driver was not at fault, but a system that encourages children to cross major roads (by the location of parks and schools), or a system that encourages traffic to switch from arterial roads to local roads, is at fault.
 

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Sorry at the end of the day parents are responsible for the safety of their children crossing the road - traffic or no traffic. Don't blame the system for what is a matter of familial responsibility.

AoD
 

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Sorry at the end of the day parents are responsible for the safety of their children crossing the road - traffic or no traffic. Don't blame the system for what is a matter of familial responsibility.
Shame on you! Don't blame the victim - before we've had any indication of fault.
 

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Shame on you! Don't blame the victim - before we've had any indication of fault.

Oh relax, stop being so dramatic all the time.

Besides, seems like many people are already defacto blaming the driver even though police laid no charges.

If I step off the curb in front of a bus, I'm the victim, but I'm also to blame.

Anyway, let's see where the police report nets out.
 

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Toronto should reduce its unposted speed limit to 40 km/h, reducing it even further in school zones to 30 km/h.


Reducing speed limits further solves nothing. Speed limits are already fine and have been for years. Most school zones are already posted 30km/h. 40km/h as the uposted limit on major arteries is stupid. Are you one of those guys that wants speedbumps on every single side street too?
 

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Shame on you! Don't blame the victim - before we've had any indication of fault.

But we don't hesitate to lay blame on the driver, the system, traffic percolating the neigbhourhood, Eglinton Crosstown, etc (my comment was specifically targeted at the claim that "there is something wrong with a system that rallies on a 6 year old to obey all traffic regulation") And yes, was the parents or an equivalent guardian actively guiding the kid across the road? What of streetproofing the kid?

AoD
 
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Reducing speed limits further solves nothing. Speed limits are already fine and have been for years. Most school zones are already posted 30km/h. 40km/h as the uposted limit on major arteries is stupid. Are you one of those guys that wants speedbumps on every single side street too?

Yet try to provide solutions, like speed cameras, and the very same people would get upset should they get caught on some other street with cameras.
 

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But we don't hesitate to lay blame on the driver, the system ...
We shouldn't do that either. Though surely placing blame on those grieving is particularly despicable. The same is true of blaming the driver, until we know what happened.

Reducing speed limits further solves nothing.
Bull. Studies show otherwise. Simply reducing the speed of impact reduces injuries and shortens braking distances.
 

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