lenaitch
Senior Member
I wonder if they are a reflection of funding shuffling or project delays caused by protracted negotiations with FNTs. South of Mactier, the 'Wahta gap' existed for around ten years.
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Roads: Ontario/GTA Highways Discussion
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Kitsune
Senior Member
From what''s previously been published the Conservatives cut off negotiations when elected and they still have not resumed as of last year.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Technically they aren’t delayed provided they were planned for 2025.. they qualify in both categories.
Given the reporting that tree clearing is already occurring right now, I assume they will slot into the 2025, and not the 2026 category. Which still aligns with the “2024-2025” category of last year.
Haljackey
Active Member
The same as every report released since the 1970s - we 'plan' to build it. That seems to be enough to win votes in this area.
With the 401 widening ongoing in Cambridge, it does lessen the need for this route a bit, but it is inexcusable that Highway 7 hasn't at least been twinned at minimum.
Deadpool X
Senior Member
Countries are normally given "her" pronoun irrespective of whether it's ruled by a King or a Queen or no royal family at all.
lenaitch
Senior Member
I saw this online. A local FN consortium has partnered with SNC, The article states that they are still at (or before - it's not clear) the bidding stage for the remaining 52 km section.
There's not necessarily a straight line between FN construction involvement and completion of land negotiations, but it would likely ease things along.
Edit: I guess actually inserting the link would be helpful.
New road builder strikes deal on completing Hwy 69 four-laning
Shwe Miikaan Corp. has signed a teaming agreement with SNC-Lavalin for Highway 69 four-laning project
www.sudbury.com
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ericmacm
Active Member
Was just out in St. Thomas today for work, and it appears that the preliminary/EA work for the HWY 3 twinning is well underway. The First Avenue interchange on-ramp was shut down as a crew appeared to be doing some assessment work on it. I also observed new survey markings on the road and wooden survey stakes in the unbuilt ROW all the way to Wonderland Road.
Additionally, I observed utility markings on the HWY 3/Wellington Road intersection, so it is likely that some geo/enviro drilling has either already occurred, or will be occurring there in the near future.
Additionally, I observed utility markings on the HWY 3/Wellington Road intersection, so it is likely that some geo/enviro drilling has either already occurred, or will be occurring there in the near future.
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Morriston1986
New Member
Really wish to have seen more commitment to the hwy 6 Morriston Bypass in the released highway program.
They are making great progress locally to connecting projects on the Guelph side of 6 aswell as a commitment for the hwy6 / hwy 5 intersection.
How can the bypass, the heart of the project, be overlooked for so long?
They are making great progress locally to connecting projects on the Guelph side of 6 aswell as a commitment for the hwy6 / hwy 5 intersection.
How can the bypass, the heart of the project, be overlooked for so long?
innsertnamehere
Superstar
MTO is moving quickly on the EA for the Highway 6 widening in Hamilton. PIC 2 will be on September 16:
Note the unfortunate, american spelling of "Center". Inconsistent within the document as well, with the title head at the top of the page adopting the Canadian spelling..
Note the unfortunate, american spelling of "Center". Inconsistent within the document as well, with the title head at the top of the page adopting the Canadian spelling..
EYorker
New Member
I travel this section semi-regularly on weekend mornings and it seems to flow just fine, but does the traffic volume on weekdays already warrant the twinning?
I never thought I would see this one moved up so quickly though. I guess it would be a pretty straight forward project since all the bridges were already widened to accommodate the eventual twinning. Not having actually looked at the PIC panels for this one, I would assume only a new bridge (but hoping for a roundabout) for Book Road, an interchange to the access road to YHM, and the interchange at Upper James would be the only major works.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
There is a lot of growth in Caledonia and I believe it's intended to serve the airport and industrial lands in Hamilton around the airport which will be getting built soon - but generally, I agree that I'm surprised to see it get funding. Especially since there are so many much more pressing projects around, even in the Hamilton region.
PIC 1 had it be a full, 100km/h freeway, so there will be a full interchange at Book Rd and the Airport, as well as a reconfiguration of the intersection with Upper James of some sort.
EYorker
New Member
Ahh. Didn't realize there were plans to develop industrial lands around the Airport. With the corresponding increase in truck traffic, it might not be a bad idea to twin sooner rather than later.
I'll be floored if the designs are changed to roundabouts in the next few rounds of public consultation. I remember the MTO in the Liberal era had a huge hard on for them, and pretty much put them wherever they could. Remains to be seen if roundabouts still have that same sway at the MTO these days.
ericmacm
Active Member
Roundabouts only really make sense when roads of similar capacities are intersecting. For the big picture of what this segment of HWY 6 is trying to achieve, roundabouts would generally be inappropriate because of the mismatch in road capacities. Conventional intersections with traffic signals or interchanges would be the only real options here.
Interchanges make the most sense due to reasons discussed above. The entire area is going to transform drastically with major industrial development near the airport, future airport expansion, and new residential developments on the mountain in Hamilton and in Caledonia. If they just twinned it and kept the at-grade intersections, it is pretty likely the interchanges would have to be built in 10-15 years anyway.
nfitz
Superstar
Or you can build an interchange, with roundabouts. Traditionally you'd put one under or over the expressway - but now you see ones with a small roundabaout on each side of the expressway - which could be appropriate on 6.
Haljackey
Active Member
Highway 4/401 cloverleaf rebuild to start next year.
This should also allow for 6-laning the 401 in west London so it matches the widening they're doing by adding a concrete barrier towards Windsor.
https://www.hwy401coltalbot.com/
This should also allow for 6-laning the 401 in west London so it matches the widening they're doing by adding a concrete barrier towards Windsor.
https://www.hwy401coltalbot.com/