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Roads: Ontario/GTA Highways Discussion

W. K. Lis said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1125853497155555334

From link:

Maximum width: Vehicle including load - 2.6 m​
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Special Permit:​

  • up to 4.30 m (standard for both single and combination vehicles).
    Note: escort vehicles may be required
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That's hilarious but, sadly, not surprising these days. There are innumerable reasons why that vehicle would not be eligible for a special permit. On the other hand, perhaps the government is over-thinking the whole public transportation issue:

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lenaitch said:
That's hilarious but, sadly, not surprising these days. There are innumerable reasons why that vehicle would not be eligible for a special permit. On the other hand, perhaps the government is over-thinking the whole public transportation issue:

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At least most people in Canada obey, okay maybe as a guideline, the laws for safety.


In other parts of the world, people rush to scavenger goods (such as fuel) but end up being killed or injured.
 
He's back...

Remember that video of a driver carting wood planks on the QEW with the rear doors of their car wide open? Turns out it may not be the first time that has happened this spring.

After CBC News ran that story, Facebook user Jonathan Sutherland sent in photos of what looks like the same car, doing the same thing, in the exact same area of the highway — except this time, carrying what looks like a large steel beam in the back.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/qew-driver-1.5127572
 
This might not the right place to ask this but I’ll ask this here anyways. When it comes to highway interchanges, are there any differences between two single lane merging on ramps and one double to single lane merging ramps? I would assume the latter would reduce the amount of lane change conflict points on the highway itself and move the earlier merge point to the on ramps. I’m mainly taking about the on ramps of partial cloverleaf interchanges, but the same advantages/disadvantages probably apply to other interchanges.
 
Leo_Chan said:
This might not the right place to ask this but I’ll ask this here anyways. When it comes to highway interchanges, are there any differences between two single lane merging on ramps and one double to single lane merging ramps? I would assume the latter would reduce the amount of lane change conflict points on the highway itself and move the earlier merge point to the on ramps. I’m mainly taking about the on ramps of partial cloverleaf interchanges, but the same advantages/disadvantages probably apply to other interchanges.
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I would think that two single lanes take up more space while a single double lane has less capacity (due to merging into a merging lane which has to merge into the main lanes)
 
tiffer24 said:
He's back...

Remember that video of a driver carting wood planks on the QEW with the rear doors of their car wide open? Turns out it may not be the first time that has happened this spring.

After CBC News ran that story, Facebook user Jonathan Sutherland sent in photos of what looks like the same car, doing the same thing, in the exact same area of the highway — except this time, carrying what looks like a large steel beam in the back.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/qew-driver-1.5127572
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And of course he's in the left lane. We don't know if it is the same vehicle but it certainly looks very similar and the M.O. is the same. I'd like to know the yard/supplier that allowed that since they bear some liability. The two occupants likely didn't load that beam themselves.
 
To those who insist that highways be widened more and more...

A Great Big Freeway — Thanks to Induced Demand

From link.

Los Angeles is getting what it paid for when it widened 10 miles of its most infamous freeways — another lane of traffic.

The extra lane of the I-405 between the 10 and the 101 freeways that opened in May, 2014, to supposedly alleviate congestion actually ended up adding a minute of travel time for drivers of the 10-mile stretch — and new data shows congestion is even worse.

The $1.6-billion infrastructure investment, known as the I-405 Sepulveda Pass Improvement Project, still resembles the parking lot at a Guns & Roses concert. Average commuting times through the Sepulveda Pass in both directions have gotten even longer in the last four years, according to data analyzed by the traffic analysis film INRIX from 2015 to 2019.

The most frustrating delays occurred during the afternoon rush when SoCal drivers heading north between 3 and 4 pm crawled along the I-405 at 19 miles per hour this year, instead of the jaunty 28 miles per hour they drove in 2015. That’s led to a 50-percent increase in travel time, from 23 minutes through the Sepulveda Pass in 2015 to 34 minutes this year.

The 405 isn’t the only SoCal freeway experiencing grinding delays. Rush hour speeds have slowed on 31 of 52 LA-area highways in the past four years, according to USC’s outlet Crosstown.

The reasons for the slowdowns are simple: The number of drivers on the road in Southern California has increased as 2.3 million more people have moved or grown up in the region and bought 2.1 million new vehicles over the past 15 years, putting more people on freeways and local roads. And widened highways encourage more drivers live further away from city centers, making people more dependent on driving. It’s a phenomenon known as the fundamental law of highway congestion, or induced demand.

For instance, since there’s no cost to getting onto the 405, if you add another lane to the 405, drivers who were taking an alternate route or leaving an hour earlier or later than normal, will instead drive on the highway during rush hour since that’s when they prefer to leave.

“At any given time the latent demand to be on a busy road is very high, so if you make it easier to travel on that road, all you’re going to do is attract some of the people who would be on the road but for the congestion levels,” said UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs urban planning professor Mike Manville. “So you have a road that is every bid as congested just wider.”

For most Californians, $1.6 billion is a lot of money and it could have gone toward other transit projects that could move people around more efficiently. A proposed rail line could move transit riders from the West Side to the Valley through the Sepulveda Pass in only 15 minutes. It could open as early as 2033.

But the best option for reducing congestion in many transit experts’ opinion is tolling — especially along the 405 between the 10 and the 101.

“The beauty of pricing the road is that you don’t chose the way people behaviorally respond. That gives them an incentive not to do what is causing the problem,” Manville added. “When you do price the road, people switch to transit. We should let people figure out what’s best for them.”
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Having a 6 lanes side by side will operate poorly compared to 3 express and 3 collector. So I am glad the province is extending the express/collector system to Milton with HOV as a bonus. I know there are also longer term plans to do the same to Oshawa (but likely without HOV).

People also forget these mega widening projects also rehabilitate/replace existing old structures at the same time (e.g. Credit River and Trafalgar) which would have been necessary anyways.
 
darth_freeman said:
Having a 6 lanes side by side will operate poorly compared to 3 express and 3 collector. So I am glad the province is extending the express/collector system to Milton with HOV as a bonus. I know there are also longer term plans to do the same to Oshawa (but likely without HOV).

People also forget these mega widening projects also rehabilitate/replace existing old structures at the same time (e.g. Credit River and Trafalgar) which would have been necessary anyways.
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I think it's more fair to compare 6 lanes to 3 express and 2 collector.

6 lanes @ 3.75m + 2.5m left shoulder + 3.0m right shoulder = 28.0m
3 express lanes @ 3.75m + 2.5m left shoulder + 3.0m right shoulder + 2 collector lanes @ 3.75m + 2.5m left shoulder + 3.0m right shoulder = 29.75m.
 
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