Roads: Gardiner Expressway catch-all, incl. Hybrid Design (2015-onwards)

[innsertnamehere]

Just underscores how much more important transit is vs. the Gardiner if a limited service commuter rail system carries more than a highway that operates 24/7, 362 days a year.

The Gardiner is also only 1 out of two downtown Freeways - the DVP carries similar (albeit slightly lower) numbers.

Also, a lot of Gardiner traffic splits off and take Lakeshore into the City instead, so it depends where they are measuring the Gardiner traffic, but there is a lot more traffic coming in there too.

Transit modal shares in the downtown as a whole are around 80-85% from what I remember, but the majority of the transit use is ultimately still TTC travel, particularly from downtown-adjacent areas.

The Gardiner and DVP remain critical for "regional" type trips in and around Downtown, specifically, for events, etc. The vast majority of commuters use transit. GO Expansion should help shift some of these regional trips to transit, but the Gardiner / DVP will always be important in getting goods and people into and out of the downtown.

 

[evandyk]

The Gardiner and DVP remain critical for "regional" type trips in and around Downtown, specifically, for events, etc. The vast majority of commuters use transit. GO Expansion should help shift some of these regional trips to transit, but the Gardiner / DVP will always be important in getting goods and people into and out of the downtown.

Which is exactly why it should be tolled.

 

[turbanplanner]

Which is exactly why it should be tolled.

Tolls *might* have made sense when the only funding source was property tax, but now the MTO is taking over it there's a snowballs chance in hell of that.

The pro transit Wynne liberals didn't approve tolls, I don't see them happening in our lifetime!

 

[innsertnamehere]

Which is exactly why it should be tolled.

I've never disputed a toll on the DVP / Gardiner, especially going into downtown.

As @turbanplanner correctly notes however - there is basically no chance of it as it plays terribly in 905 election circles critical to provincial politicians.