Road Safety & Vision Zero Plan

[crs1026]

I agree with you on that stretch of Queensway but In my head this was the part where the streetcar runs. The limit used to be 60 and now it was lowered to 40 despite there being few lights or other road users in those sections.

Yes, that's the section with the greatest separation of vehicles from cyclists and pedestrians. Makes no sense to lower it to 40. Eastwards, the lights at Glendale and Sunnyside pretty much choke the flow anyways.
Westbound, the speed rises at South Kingsway, again despite any real conflict with pedestrians. The stretch over the Humber is likely engineered for 70, that is a bit extreme but why not have a uniform speed up to Stephen - and/or modify the road so it's not such an obvious racetrack.
And just wait until First builds on the Christie lands, and the entrance to the Sobeys plaza becomes a through street to Lakeshore. It's going to be gridlock anyways.

- Paul

 

[turbanplanner]

The last time it significantly snowed was several days ago, this is Steles ave near Bathurst. Like I've said multiple times, snow and rain lean to busses and other large vehicles entering the other lane.

I don't understand why anyone thinks this would be better if we had narrower lanes! You're just going to increase sideswipes and in the arears where we did narrow the lanes, accidents didn't go down!

 

[nfitz]

The last time it significantly snowed was several days ago, this is Steles ave near Bathurst. Like I've said multiple times, snow and rain lean to busses and other large vehicles entering the other lane.

If the lanes were even narrower, with less place to put snow, they'd clear it faster - as they did days ago on many streets.

We've gone entire winters without significant snowfall. Should we really design roads based on a snowstorm amount not seen in nearly 2 centuries of monitoring in Toronto?

 

[turbanplanner]

If the lanes were even narrower, with less place to put snow, they'd clear it faster - as they did days ago on many streets.

We've gone entire winters without significant snowfall. Should we really design roads based on a snowstorm amount not seen in nearly 2 centuries of monitoring in Toronto?

That works until you have more narrow streets!

Here is a street just off Lakeshore Boulevard, it’s been weeks and neither of the sidewalk nor the part of the road near the cars has been plowed! I’m not pointing fingers, but I have absolutely no faith in the city of snow removal ability!

I remember during the storm in January last year we went several weeks that turn lanes on major roads were left to hold snow effectively removing a lane for weeks!

And narrow lanes aren’t bad just during snow days, when water pools at the sides or rain is heavy enough for visibility to go down people end up just sort of wiggling around where they feel like!

I understand it’s hard to clean where the cars are, but why is the sidewalk still a mess?

 

[nfitz]

That works until you have more narrow streets!

Here is a street just off Lakeshore Boulevard, it’s been weeks and neither of the sidewalk nor the part of the road near the cars has been plowed! I’m not pointing fingers, but I have absolutely no faith in the city of snow removal ability!

I remember during the storm in January last year we went several weeks that turn lanes on major roads were left to hold snow effectively removing a lane for weeks!

And narrow lanes aren’t bad just during snow days, when water pools at the sides or rain is heavy enough for visibility to go down people end up just sort of wiggling around where they feel like!

I understand it’s hard to clean where the cars are, but why is the sidewalk still a mess?

That's got a lot more to do with the terrible John Tory snow plowing contract that the right-wing council members pushed through - that impact the non-right wing wards the most.

 

[turbanplanner]

That's got a lot more to do with the terrible John Tory snow plowing contract that the right-wing council members pushed through - that impact the non-right wing wards the most.

The issue is it’s not a problem just on snow days, rain etc are bad.

Apparently there is a catch 22 when it comes to the contracts now, ANY PENALTY is moot because every bidder will just up their bid if higher penalties are negotiated.

I know it was a record year but peel, York, and Toronto all had horrible effectiveness, leaving sidewalks and sections of the road covered for weeks!

There was a snow pile on my Main Street that was just cleared yesterday, and it’s been 2 weeks since the big storm!

This is not a field! This is a sidewalk in Mississauga (Dixie) a week after the big storm