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Road Safety & Vision Zero Plan

I honestly believe that slapping speed cameras everywhere is just holding us back from the improvements we actually need. It's no better than the infamously flawed 85th percentile speed rule, we are just placing cameras everywhere the same way Toronto has been slapping speed limits with 0 relation to road design geometry whatsoever. The real change lies in road design- lane width, turning radii, chicanes, speed bumps, etc. That's how you actually manage speed if you care, you ideally shouldn't even need to look at your speedometer to travel the road's design speed, it will just feel natural to go that speed. Maybe once cameras are banned it will force Toronto to actually come up with solutions. I'm not against speed cameras in principle, its just that we've been using them as an excuse for far to long to leave our 5-7 lane stroads untouched and endlessly put off any real change for no apparent reason (ahem Parkside). Speed cameras should be a last resort if there is really nothing else that can be done.

The thing Ford actually needs to do is find a way to dramatically speed up projects. We're all tired of endless studies that don't do anything and waste years.
There is one problem with your logic. While I agree redesigning streets is the most effective way to slow down drivers, Doug Ford's Bill 212 means cities can no longer install bike lanes which remove traffic lanes without provincial approval. A situation which applies to Parkside and we still don't know what the approval criteria will be.
 
I honestly believe that slapping speed cameras everywhere is just holding us back from the improvements we actually need. It's no better than the infamously flawed 85th percentile speed rule, we are just placing cameras everywhere the same way Toronto has been slapping speed limits with 0 relation to road design geometry whatsoever. The real change lies in road design- lane width, turning radii, chicanes, speed bumps, etc. That's how you actually manage speed if you care, you ideally shouldn't even need to look at your speedometer to travel the road's design speed, it will just feel natural to go that speed. Maybe once cameras are banned it will force Toronto to actually come up with solutions. I'm not against speed cameras in principle, its just that we've been using them as an excuse for far to long to leave our 5-7 lane stroads untouched and endlessly put off any real change for no apparent reason (ahem Parkside). Speed cameras should be a last resort if there is really nothing else that can be done.

The thing Ford actually needs to do is find a way to dramatically speed up projects. We're all tired of endless studies that don't do anything and waste years.

What is the timeline and budget (and scope) for this road redesign? I keep reading this on this forum and reddit, and it just seems like an excuse to do nothing. You can tell the argument is not genuine care for actually slowing down traffic, because if it was, we would want to remove the cameras as part of the road redesign, not before.
 
There may be a better spot for this in the Infra threads; it also belongs in the St. Lawrence neighbourhood thread..........

But the project long discussed by @DSCToronto to pedestrianize Leader Lane south of Colborne and to fancy up Colborne is set to move ahead.

Reports to the next meeting of TEYCC seek to pass the relevant regulations, including removing parking from Colborne.


From the above:

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The companion report is here:


From the above:

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There may be a better spot for this in the Infra threads; it also belongs in the St. Lawrence neighbourhood thread..........

But the project long discussed by @DSCToronto to pedestrianize Leader Lane south of Colborne and to fancy up Colborne is set to move ahead.

Reports to the next meeting of TEYCC seek to pass the relevant regulations, including removing parking from Colborne.


From the above:

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The companion report is here:


From the above:

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Yes, long planned. I posted most of this in the St Lawrence neighbourhood thread too but good to have the detail here.
 
Leaside Bridge update.

Council made some tweaks.

1) They picked option 6

2) They directed that the work here (installing the barrier) be prioritized and expedited.

3) They authorized staff to issue a contract RV Anderson for design/engineering.

4) They directed that a status update and timeline on procurement be provided by the end of September:

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A follow up on the Leaside bridge, suicide prevention barriers, from a report to next week's Infrastructure and Environment Ctte.


We're still going to get the permanent option that was approved, however, not until the bridge is slated for major work, in 2037.

In the interim, they will install something like this; without the nice street lighting, of course.


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From the report:

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For the two permanent alternatives, a reminder of what they look like:

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Key Provisions on Automated Speed Cameras (Schedule 5: Highway Traffic Act Amendments)


The bill’s impact on ASE is concentrated in a few targeted changes, primarily repealing enabling legislation while shielding governments from fallout. Here’s a breakdown of the verbatim relevant text and its effects:


1. Repeal of Automated Speed Enforcement Authorization (Section 5):


• The bill fully repeals Part XIV.1 of the HTA, which since 2019 has allowed municipalities to install and operate ASE systems in designated areas (e.g., school and community safety zones). This part outlined requirements for camera placement, ticket issuance, evidence admissibility, and revenue allocation (fines directed to road safety initiatives).


• Impact: If enacted, this would immediately prohibit all municipal ASE programs province-wide. No new installations would be permitted, and existing systems (currently operational in cities like Toronto, Ottawa, and Hamilton) would need to be decommissioned. The government has stated this ban takes effect “immediately upon Royal Assent,” potentially disrupting ongoing contracts and operations before the November 14 commencement date for most of Schedule 5. This aligns with Ford’s 2022 election promise to eliminate these “revenue tools.”


2. Protection from Lawsuits and Contract Breaches (New Section 206.6 in Part XIV.5):


• Verbatim: “No cause of action arises against a municipality… as a direct or indirect result of the breach, termination or frustration of a contract between a municipality and a supplier or vendor of equipment used for an automated speed enforcement system before the end of the term of the contract that occurs following the repeal of Part XIV.1. No costs, compensation or damages… are owing or payable to any person… in connection with anything referred to in that subsection.”


• Impact: This “extinguishment clause” immunizes municipalities, the province, and their officials from liability for abruptly ending vendor contracts (e.g., with companies like Redflex or Verra Mobility). It bars claims for lost profits, revenue, or other damages, even in cases of bad faith or breach of trust, except for constitutional challenges or judicial reviews. No expropriation claims under the Expropriations Act would apply. This provision effectively prevents costly litigation that could delay implementation, but it has drawn criticism for overriding private contracts without compensation.


3. Removal of References and Procedural Clean-Up (Sections 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11):


• These strike out mentions of ASE in sections related to tolls, convictions, regulations, and evidentiary rules (e.g., removing ASE from lists of “automated systems” for offence proceedings under Section 210.1).


• Impact: Ensures no lingering legal hooks for ASE post-repeal, streamlining enforcement to traditional methods (e.g., police radar). It also repeals related signage rules (Section 206.4), shifting focus away from camera-specific infrastructure.


4. New Mandate for School Zone Signage (New Section 128.0.1):


• Verbatim: “The Minister may issue directives requiring a municipality to install signs in school zones… A municipality that receives a directive… shall comply with it.” If non-compliant, the Minister can install signs themselves, overriding local bylaws.


• Impact: This is positioned as a “safety alternative” to cameras, mandating better signage in school zones (e.g., flashing lights or reduced speed warnings). It empowers the province to enforce compliance directly, potentially at municipal expense. While not a full replacement for cameras, it aims to maintain some visibility of speed limits without automated ticketing.
 
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Signage is usually pretty good around speed cameras - the municipalities make sure of it when they install the cameras.

If you get ticketed, you probably drove past at least two relevant signs, And didn't look at your speedometer.

I am surprised that municipalities haven't tried to counter the "tax grab" argument. There is tons of room (especially for a provincial government that has cut cheques to rebate tax payments, has waived various forms of user fees, and manipulated alcohol prices), to control or redirect the funds collected. Maybe they could offer a rebate program of their own. Or, the money could flow to the province and then be distributed under some formula. Maybe it is used to offset insurance costs or licensing fees (what licensing fees, I know) for drivers with a perfect record.

The reality is that municipalities do need the money and are the most heavily constrained level of government with respect to how they can raise funds. It''s better to tax careless drivers than add the same amount to property taxes or other conventional revenue sources. But that's a harder row to hoe in a political climate where taxation is viewed as evil, even if it funds valued programs.

Ford is coming from the attitude that driving a vehicle is easy and anyone should be able to do it without devoting much effort to it. These days, in crowded cities that simply isn't true. Driving is getting more complicated, roads are filling up, and some percentage of licensed drivers just can't handle the challenge.

- Paul
 
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Speed cameras will be gone. Ford does not care about road safety. Feel like I'm going insane hearing people despise Trump but lap up Ford's bs which is using a similar anti-democratic playbook.


Transportation Minister Prabmeet Sarkaria said an omnibus red tape bill, which includes the speed camera ban, will receive royal assent next Monday, with municipalities then required to remove the cameras by Nov. 14.
 
Is this what we're doing now, delivery trucks stopping in centre lanes?

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In some ways I'm okay with this since it will visually narrow the lane for passing drivers and likely to them slow down. Makes me think of street parking in my area where the side permitted alternates; people illegally parking on the other side used to really annoy me until it got pointed out that cars on both sides narrows the lane and slows cars down, so now I'm weirdly fine with it since we can't easily get traffic islands or chicanes.

But the first image gives me pause being so close to an intersection and taking away sight lines for pedestrians crossing.
 
Courier Driver #1: "Well, where do ya want me to park it?"

Courier Driver #2: "Just be glad I didn't bring the 18-wheeler"

I'm not defending the drivers in the above images, but I would offer the view that courier and delivery parking is something that we do a very poor job of anticipating and managing in dense urban environments. The photos depict a roadscape that has not made much provision for deliveries - in a location where such deliveries are a reality and must be assumed. There are a huge number of commercial buildings in this city with no courier/delivery parking available.... and one has to assume that all residences will need deliveries (of a size and nature that bike couriers can't handle).

At face value, there is a tangible cost to a consumer oriented society from forcing shipments into smaller, more manageable cube vans. (I wonder however how full the trucks in those images really are - couriers utilise large vehicles because they are sometimes needed, but often run partially or largely empty)

And there is a real detriment to expecting those big rigs to circle the block looking for the nearest legal or available parking spot. That adds traffic, congestion, noise, emissions.... and labour cost, as the delivery takes longer. Grabbing the closest available flat space has its merits, signage and road design notwithstanding.

My impression (simply from being an uninformed tourist) is that other continents somehow adopt smaller vehicles but tolerate or make provision for their presence. That must imply different tradeoffs in the cost and productivity of delivery. They seem to survive better.

I am not proposing a solution, I am simply pointing out that it's an elephant in the room and we seem to not do much about it except take offense when it's inconvenient.

It's a tension that needs resolution.

- Paul
 
My impression (simply from being an uninformed tourist) is that other continents somehow adopt smaller vehicles but tolerate or make provision for their presence. That must imply different tradeoffs in the cost and productivity of delivery. They seem to survive better.
Was greeted by this today:
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Which seems like a far better use of resources and space in the downtown core than the large trucks they otherwise use
 
From today, https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/11/05/toronto-man-injured-pedestrian-bathurst-st-clair/

Pedestrian in critical condition after being struck by pickup truck at Bathurst and St. Clair​


Toronto police say a man is in hospital with life-threatening injuries after being struck by a pick-up truck early Wednesday morning.

The collision happened around 6:42 a.m. at the intersection of Bathurst Street and St. Clair Avenue West near Casa Loma, according to police. Emergency crews responded, and the male pedestrian was transported to the hospital for treatment.

Police confirmed the driver of the pick-up truck remained at the scene and is cooperating with investigators.

As a result of the collision, the westbound lanes of St. Clair Avenue West at Bathurst Street were closed during the morning commute.

Police are asking anyone who may have witnessed the incident or has dashcam footage from the area to contact investigators.
If the collision happened between a pedestrian and a pickup truck, why do they detour the the St. Clair streetcar away, when the pickup track and pedestrian were not even on the streetcar tracks?
 

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