Request for Image of Comparison between Streetcar and Motor Traffic

[Johnny Au]

I remember that there was an image of a Toronto street showing how many cars a Toronto streetcar can replace. Please post the image, since it would be helpful. I tried to find that image with no luck.

 

[LNahid2000]

From the TTC Facebook page.

 

[Dan416]

That's pretty cool.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

They will need to do an update with the new low-floor vehicles. I think 1.5 times the number of people.

 

[Johnny Au]

Thank you very much. It would be better to do the same, but with the new Flexity LRVs.

 

[spider]

So, 1 streetcar = 40 or 50 cars?
If this were a two way street which most streetcar routes are and half the cars were Eastbound and half Westbound you would need 2 half full streetcars in every block to handle the number of people in those cars.

 

[ttk77]

I notice the image only shows enough people in the street car to fill the available seats. I'd love to see a more realistic picture of the 501 jam-packed from front to back.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

I notice the image only shows enough people in the street car to fill the available seats. I'd love to see a more realistic picture of the 501 jam-packed from front to back.

Or a car full of people (now that would be a rarity). Realistically there would be only one or two people in the automobiles.

 

[flonicky]

and if you want to be really picky, that's an ALRV in the pic

 

[spider]

Or a car full of people (now that would be a rarity). Realistically there would be only one or two people in the automobiles

Even more realistically, half the motor vehicles would be cabs, couriers and tradespeople all of whom have no intention of boarding that streetcar.

 

[Admiral Beez]

I notice the image only shows enough people in the street car to fill the available seats. I'd love to see a more realistic picture of the 501 jam-packed from front to back.

Plus you need to add the the shaky smelly guy talking to his inner demons, the fat lady taking two seats clipping her finger nails, the man-boys with the overloud head phones, students with giant backpacks and the cell phone yappers. Add in the summer sweats when jammed in without air con.

 

[ttk77]

Plus you need to add the the shaky smelly guy talking to his inner demons, the fat lady taking two seats clipping her finger nails, the man-boys with the overloud head phones, students with giant backpacks and the cell phone yappers. Add in the summer sweats when jammed in without air con.

lol all of which would make for a very realistic experience on the 501, but probably wouldn't really affect how many cars would be required to replace the streetcar. Btw, you forgot about the guy from the 'burbs hiding his nose under the front of his shirt and the teens at the back drinking beer and swearing with their outside voices.

 

[nfitz]

From the TTC Facebook page.

The original, but lower quality images, can be found in the 2008 operating statistics - http://www3.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Operating_Statistics/2008.jsp

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

and if you want to be really picky, that's an ALRV in the pic

Hence, the "1.5 times" reference because it was an ALRV in the photo. If it were a CLRV in the photo, it would be a "2 times" for the LFLRV.

 

[junctionist]

Plus you need to add the the shaky smelly guy talking to his inner demons, the fat lady taking two seats clipping her finger nails, the man-boys with the overloud head phones, students with giant backpacks and the cell phone yappers. Add in the summer sweats when jammed in without air con.

Also, the image with the cars has no panhandlers asking for money, and you can't hear the 2000 watt stereo of the guy in the subcompact shaking the body panels of cars around it. There are no trucks in that traffic jam spewing disgusting pollution or clunkers burning oil as they idle beside the other cars, not to mention the lack of obligatory cars stopped in the curb lane with their emergency lights on when illegal. There is no parking enforcement. It's also a suspiciously pristine road surface.