It's still there - "interactive water wall" - the location moved:Typical.
The one common request that was heard at every public consultation was that there was no actual water on the waterfront. You can see the lake but you can’t touch it. You can see a pond at harbourfront but you can’t swim in it. This park became an opportunity to remediate that shortcoming. So a water feature was a mandatory element of the design competition. This winning design had a waterfall that became a splash pad that kids, big and small could play in. I’ve looked through the updated plans and that seems to be gone.
This city is maddening sometimes.
During the presentation you shared, they point out that the waterfall has been reduced and further into the presentation it’s discussed that it could be eliminated to save costs. The project budget has been nearly cut in half from 10M to 6M so I don’t have a lot of faith that the water component will make it to the end.
In respect of HTO park, the slope into the lake was vetoed by Parks for safety reasons, not budget.Note that HTO park itself was originally supposed to slope into the lake with an isolated “lake” segment effectively creating a clean water pool for HTO park’s beach. That was obviously dropped.
In the end, after all this waterfront redevelopment is completed, we’re going to have an entire waterfront with no access to any water and someone is going to wonder how that was missed. In this value engineering process, we’re witnessing how.
"Entire waterfront"?? Pretty sure The Beach(es), The Island(s) and Sunnyside are still part of our waterfront.In the end, after all this waterfront redevelopment is completed, we’re going to have an entire waterfront with no access to any water and someone is going to wonder how that was missed. In this value engineering process, we’re witnessing how.
Right. I should’ve been more specific: I’m discussing the central waterfront that falls in the scope of Waterfront Toronto’s waterfront revitalization project."Entire waterfront"?? Pretty sure The Beach(es), The Island(s) and Sunnyside are still part of our waterfront.
And we have a downtown beach with easy access to sugar .
I mean water play features. The omission of a large water feature that allows people to interact with water will eventually be noticed by future generations that look back at our waterfront redevelopment.In terms of water-access I'm not sure what you mean.
If you simply mean viewing water/water features, there is some of that now and will be a good deal more.
There are significant water features in Sherbourne Common, Harbour Square West and the soon-to-be, Love Park.
While much of the waterfront will have a near-water level deck you can walk along.
If you're looking for a place to swim..........Toronto Harbour would not be somewhere I'd recommend..........it's a wee bit dirty.
Just to put it into perspective - Crown Fountain cost $17M US - the entire budget for Phase 1 of this park is 6M Canadian, 2020 dollars. You won't come close to getting any water feature of such significance at this budget.I always trot out the worldbest example of this, and I’ll do it again: Crown Fountain is a beloved icon of Chicago’s Millennium Park and that city has a similar climate to Toronto, so winter isn’t an excuse to omit water features.
I get that. The waterfall would’ve been (and can still be) a relatively good water play feature that could emulate this space without the LED art component in the monoliths. Water falls onto a square with a surrounding gutter that enables the formation of about half an inch of water that you can step in without getting wet or splash in if you’re in the mood to play. It doesn’t have to be complicated.Just to put it into perspective - Crown Fountain cost $17M US - the entire budget for Phase 1 of this park is 6M Canadian, 2020 dollars. You won't come close to getting any water feature of such significance at this budget.