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President Donald Trump's United States of America

Wonder if Trump has anything like this installed for Mayor Mamdami

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In which Trump goes fully insane and calls for the imprisonment and execution of Democrats because Dems told military to disobey his illegal orders. He also retruthed (like retweeting) a post saying Dems should be hung, but hey, Dems are the violent ones apparently....


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he can't veto a bill that passed unanimously. He can only veto if the vote is less than 2/3. (There are other ways to stop the release involving the DOJ, however)
The bill only requires the release of unclassified documents. There is no real governance over document classification, so the Trump admin can likely just classify and/or redact any problematic documents. Maybe this is what they have been busy doing these last months.
 
Grounds?

I think he a dangerous buffoon, but the rule of law has to be maintained.
...I would imagine making threats to execute elected officials outright would be up there.

That said, the rule of law has become very transient in that country. I don't need to go into the things alone being documented on this thread as to why...along with a complicit legislature and supreme court to put that mildly. So it's no good rolling that out now, when that ship of lawlessness has long since sailed here.

However, if you are looking for those reasoned law makers and legal experts who are still try keeping some decorum of law, then you might have a point. But anywhere else that really does cross the, IMO.
 
Speaking of which...
The bill only requires the release of unclassified documents. There is no real governance over document classification, so the Trump admin can likely just classify and/or redact any problematic documents. Maybe this is what they have been busy doing these last months.
...that's an interesting point:


The lawmakers wrote into the respective act that the DOJ has to explain to them why they are redacting and/or withholding what's on those files. Which in of itself could become embarrassing to The Administration. Or least how I understand how that works.
 
Grounds?

I think he a dangerous buffoon, but the rule of law has to be maintained.
Huh? What rule of law? How many more laws does he have to break before they start enforcing the rules of law against him? Oh wait, according to the Trump-stuffed supreme court the whole presidential immunity thing means that if the president does it, it's not illegal. And how did SCOTUS justify that? Right... If there is no mention in the Constitution that the president doesn't have immunity, then he clearly has immunity.

So much for the rule of law.
 
he's been impeached before. It didn't accomplish much, if anything.
It didn't accomplish much because impeachment occurs in the House, but a conviction happens in the Senate. Trump was impeached in the House but was not convicted in the Senate. Without a conviction in the Senate, an impeachment in the House is meaningless. Interestingly enough, Richard Nixon was neither impeached in the House nor convicted in the Senate, but all indications were that both were certain to happen, so he resigned to avoid the inevitable. On the other hand, Bill Clinton was impeached in the House but acquitted in the Senate. An impeachment is like an indictment. It leads to a trial in the Senate (the upper deliberative chamber) and can result in either a conviction or an acquittal.

We saw this week both republican chambers of Congress rebel against Trump, voting almost unanimously to release the Epstein files. Only one congressman voted against. After this week, Trump is no longer the "Teflon Don," and I could easily envision republicans in the House and Senate joining forces with the Democrats to remove Trump from office even before the midterms. This is my fever dream. If this happens, Trump is unlikely to leave the White House voluntarily, so he would have to be forcibly frog-marched out of the White House.
 
he's been impeached before. It didn't accomplish much, if anything.
...to my understanding, it's not that it didn't accomplish much, rather all of them where defeated in the Senate by enough elected officials that thought his behavior was okay.
 
...to my understanding, it's not that it didn't accomplish much, rather all of them where defeated in the Senate by enough elected officials that thought his behavior was okay.
Yes that's what happened. It didn't accomplish much because nothing changed, he just carried on, he was re-elected, and now he is even worse. He just doesn't care. They need to invoke the 25th Amendment or actually convict him. Congress impeaches, the Senate convicts.

Of course, that would leave us with Vance. He's been put in place by Thiel and his cronies, but he doesn't have the cult following that Trump does.
 

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