President Donald Trump's United States of America

[zang]

^It will only “go away” by putting folks in who will fight back and stay vigilant in doing so. Never giving up. Never selling out. And always pushing for the greater good and a just society, IMO.

It sure as hell ain't gonna be Chuck "strongly worded letter" Schumer or Nancy "Calls for Unity" Pelosi.

 

[zang]

Investigative journalist Justin Ling has written a fantastic piece on Kirk's dances with Nick Fuentes and the Groyper movement, and his shift from more moderate positions to closer towards full on white nationalism.

Who Was Charlie Kirk, Anyway?

Kirk occupied a uniquely powerful place in the MAGA movement

www.bugeyedandshameless.com

 

[Mihairokov]

Investigative journalist Justin Ling has written a fantastic piece on Kirk's dances with Nick Fuentes and the Groyper movement, and his shift from more moderate positions to closer towards full on white nationalism.

Who Was Charlie Kirk, Anyway?

Kirk occupied a uniquely powerful place in the MAGA movement

www.bugeyedandshameless.com

Saw it mentioned on Twitter but someone was going in detail about how the US security apparatus really isn't ready or prepared for what groups like groypers are capable of if they ever dare leave their rooms. This week was a decent example of that, both in Kirk's assassination but also in the inability of authorities to do much of anything competently in response. The fact that the administration has stripped most agencies of any sort of power will simply make things worse, which is their intent.

Ling does well here because this is exactly his ballpark.

 

[zang]

Saw it mentioned on Twitter but someone was going in detail about how the US security apparatus really isn't ready or prepared for what groups like groypers are capable of if they ever dare leave their rooms. This week was a decent example of that, both in Kirk's assassination but also in the inability of authorities to do much of anything competently in response. The fact that the administration has stripped most agencies of any sort of power will simply make things worse, which is their intent.

Not only that, but the directive of what's left of those agencies are now focused on immigration matters and "instigation" from the left. It's like they opened the back door of the club, hung a neon arrow over it, then proceeded to put all their security at the front. It has the chance to overrun them and play them like a fiddle. In the meantime, alt-right nationalist groups have spent the last decade putting their own folks in power positions as much as possible, from school trustees all the way up to whomever Stephen Miller tells Trump he should hire next.

Ling does well here because this is exactly his ballpark.

Ling, Rachel Gilmore, Amanda Moore, are good resources for this kind of thing.

Edit: Can't believe I forgot to mention Kurt Phillips!

It's clear though that traditional news organizations are eschewing investigative journalism (especially about stuff happening on the right) these days. Gutting newsrooms at a time when it's needed the most.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

It sure as hell ain't gonna be Chuck "strongly worded letter" Schumer or Nancy "Calls for Unity" Pelosi.

…as I said, people who will fight back. Schumer, Pelosi, Jeffries, et al have sold out…so we can’t rely on them to do so here.

 

[zang]

…as I said, people who will fight back. Schumer, Pelosi, Jeffries, et al have sold out…so we can’t rely on them to do so here.

My worry is that all the rhetoric is going to lead to the people who have the charisma and can draw the kind of votes needed for a decisive win to lead the party out of something like this will be targeted with more than just words.

 

[picard102]

Now the right is spreading unconfirmed rumors that the suspect was dating a transgendered person. They really need this to be about trans people I guess.

 

[adma]

Saw it mentioned on Twitter but someone was going in detail about how the US security apparatus really isn't ready or prepared for what groups like groypers are capable of if they ever dare leave their rooms. This week was a decent example of that, both in Kirk's assassination but also in the inability of authorities to do much of anything competently in response. The fact that the administration has stripped most agencies of any sort of power will simply make things worse, which is their intent.

"which is their intent".

Particularly given all those young Big Balls types who could well be fellow travellers with the Groyper accelerationists.

Essentially, we might be dealing with a booby-trapped administration--and a booby-trapped nation, for that matter.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

Now the right is spreading unconfirmed rumors that the suspect was dating a transgendered person. They really need this to be about trans people I guess.

Even if this was true…so what? Even if this person was proven to be an accessory after the fact (unlikely)…how was this shooting about being trans? Oh, right…

…these hate filled bigots and their media enablers want trans people eradicated. Still nothing to do with the effing shooter…or why he pulled that trigger. But I guess that’s less important now. /bleah

 

[adma]

If he's a Groyper, the notion that he'd even be dating would likely have him branded as a traitor to his cause.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

People have fetishes, novel romances and weird things in their closet, even among the right. This should not be surprising or unique…even if it contradicts their stated views and politics. Therefore, it should never be assumed so automatically that this has any motive in them for doing awful and murderous things.

 

[afransen]

His roommate is apparently a transwoman, it is suggested that they were in a romantic relationship (but that might be the police making assumptions), and is cooperating with the investigation.

Someone dating a trans person is probably going to be assumed to be left wing, but people are able to contain contradictions. The killers' family is overwhelmingly MAGA Republican, according to the matriarch.

 

[zang]

His roommate is apparently a transwoman, it is suggested that they were in a romantic relationship (but that might be the police making assumptions), and is cooperating with the investigation
Someone dating a trans person is probably going to be assumed to be left wing, but people are able to contain contradictions.

Even the Daily Mail–which isn't exactly the paragon of non-sensationalist news–has done an article on the roommate as of 10am this morning, and wasn't able to corroborate that Robinson and the roommate were in a relationship, or that his roommate was transgender at all. The Daily Mail did go so far as to sensationalize that they can't confirm there wasn't a "transgender motive".

 

[adma]

His roommate is apparently a transwoman, it is suggested that they were in a romantic relationship (but that might be the police making assumptions), and is cooperating with the investigation.

Someone dating a trans person is probably going to be assumed to be left wing, but people are able to contain contradictions. The killers' family is overwhelmingly MAGA Republican, according to the matriarch.

Keep in mind Caitlyn Jenner as running counter to that left-wing rule of thumb.

 

[afransen]

Keep in mind Caitlyn Jenner as running counter to that left-wing rule of thumb.

Somehow, there are trans and gay people who are fans of Kirk.