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Poor to Get Dental Plan (Ontario Throne Speech)

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Poor to get dental plan

Premier's agenda focuses on poverty, economy, education and climate change
Nov 29, 2007 04:30 AM
Robert Benzie
Queen's Park Bureau Chief
The Toronto Star

Fighting poverty will be a cornerstone of today's throne speech and Premier Dalton McGuinty has conscripted his most powerful ministers to ensure the poor are championed at Queen's Park.

McGuinty is giving his anti-poverty initiative teeth with a $45 million dental care plan for the working poor.

The speech, entitled "Moving Forward The Ontario Way," will outline an agenda focused on improving life for the province's needy, curbing climate change and bolstering public education – all while strengthening the economy.

Sources say the Speech from the Throne, to be delivered by Lieutenant-Governor David Onley in the Legislature today at 2 p.m., will repeat the goal of poverty-reduction targets in 2008, promise additional measures for combating child poverty and highlight the Liberals' denticare plan unveiled during the election campaign.

McGuinty gave reporters yesterday the sweeping scope of the poverty crusade.

"This is a huge issue for us," he said. "A lot of the hard work will consist of properly defining the indicators and then putting in place targets."

The new dental program – developed after an investigation into the problem by the Star's Moira Welsh earlier this year – will help about 500,000 low-income workers unable to afford private insurance coverage for their teeth.

It will cover preventive care, including fluoride treatments and cleanings by dental hygienists, and fillings and extractions by dentists.

McGuinty has appointed Health Minister George Smitherman; Finance Minister Dwight Duncan; Education Minister Kathleen Wynne; Municipal Affairs Minister Jim Watson; Training, Colleges and Universities Minister John Milloy; Attorney General Chris Bentley and Citizenship and Immigration Minister Michael Chan to a new anti-poverty cabinet committee led by Children and Youth Services Minister Deb Matthews.

Insiders say the composition of the influential working group proves the Liberals plan a broad-based approach with, for example, Milloy focusing on apprenticeships and job training and Watson on new affordable housing.

The government is expected to tout "creative financial options" to build non-profit and co-operative housing and launch special programs with banks to make it easier for low-income Ontarians to save for a house.

McGuinty, who has travelled to the United Kingdom to study the work of the Labour government there, said he was "taking a very close look" at poverty targets set by former British prime minister Tony Blair.

"I'm a fan of targets – we've established them for class sizes and (medical) wait times and test scores," the premier said.

In 1999, Blair vowed to end child poverty by 2020 and cut it from 4.1 million kids to 3.1 million by 2005.

In the end, child poverty in Britain fell by 700,000. Activists said the aggressive goal spurred action even if the target was missed by 300,000.

Here at home, many anti-poverty groups have urged the province to commit to reduce poverty by at least 25 per cent within the next five years and 50 per cent within the next 10 years.

McGuinty noted that improving the lot of Ontario's poor is also beneficial to the province's economy because he needs "all hands on deck" to compete with jurisdictions around the globe.

"We need everybody at their best if we're going to succeed both as a society and as an economy," he said, adding Ontario's economic outlook faces "challenges" due to a strong Canadian dollar that is hurting manufacturers here.

His moves come after a United Way report released Monday concluded Toronto is the poverty capital of Canada with 30 per cent of families considered poor.

While NDP Leader Howard Hampton has long been urging policies to help the least fortunate in society, he expressed doubt that the Liberals' plan will do much.

"I expect a repetition of promises that have already been broken several times. I think we will see many of the things that were promised in the past and haven't happened," said Hampton.

"If that's all there is, it will be a disappointing throne speech," he said.

Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory, who has to watch the speech on TV because he failed to win a seat in the Oct. 10 election, urged McGuinty to focus on jobs.

"Ontario's economy isn't the well-oiled machine it once was," warned Tory.

"Empty words and empty promises won't fix that. We need to see a real economic plan and some concrete action coming out of the throne speech."

In the 107-seat Legislature, the Liberals hold 71 seats, the Conservatives 26 and the New Democrats have 10.
 
"Ontario's economy isn't the well-oiled machine it once was," warned Tory.

"Empty words and empty promises won't fix that. We need to see a real economic plan and some concrete action coming out of the throne speech."

Let's start with Federal policies, perhaps?

AoD
 
Yeah, god forbid the Ontario government should focus on the needs people who work and are still poor.
 
Yeah, god forbid the Ontario government should focus on the needs people who work and are still poor.
Not to worry - this government will not do anything competent to help the needs of those who work and are still poor- say, like cut taxes, cut the PST, etc. No, I'm afraid it's going to be costly window dressing, like this dental plan thing...
 
Yeah, because people who are too poor to pay taxes are really going to benefit from cuts to the top marginal tax rate more than they'd benefit from them and their children being able to go to the dentist for the first time in years.

I guess I miss the point. Everything government does it bad. If we had no taxes, we would all be millionaires living in Utopia.
 
Yup, courtesy of those tax cuts, the really wealthy will have all that extra change it'll just flow out of their pockets. The working poor can pick it up and after a few years can afford to see a dentist to receive the bad news.

Again, we hear that the United States has low taxes when compared to Canada, so why does that country have so many people living in poverty?
 
Yup, courtesy of those tax cuts, the really wealthy will have all that extra change it'll just flow out of their pockets. The working poor can pick it up and after a few years can afford to see a dentist to receive the bad news.

Again, we hear that the United States has low taxes when compared to Canada, so why does that country have so many people living in poverty?

More than here, per capita?
 
More than here, per capita?

Absolutely! Far, far higher. The official U.S. Census poverty figure is 12.6%, still significantly higher than the Statscan low-income cutoff figure of 10.8% in 2005. The American figure also doesn't count that country's millions of illegal immigrants, and it's generally considered to be quite notorious for undercounting. The annual income threshold for poverty in 2006 for an unmarried individual was $10,294. I'd like to see someone try to live off $11,000 a year and say they aren't in poverty. The Canadian low-income cutoff was $17,571 for a single unattached individual in a major city, way back in 1998. The difference is pretty obvious.

Anyone who's ever visited a real American major city (family trips to Manhattan don't count) will be able to tell quite unequivocally that poverty in the United States is far, far more severe.
 
Not to mention, one should try getting health care in the US at such income levels (Medicare & Medicaid notwithstanding).

AoD
 
Quite frankly, illegal immigrants should be dropped from that stat. Further, I wonder if the poverty mesure is the same.
 
Quite frankly, illegal immigrants should be dropped from that stat. Further, I wonder if the poverty mesure is the same.

Why should they be dropped? The economies of half the American states are based on exploiting illegal immigrant labour. Moreover, it doesn't include the vastly higher American prison population.

I think I explained it pretty clearly. They both worth the same way, with an income cut-off. The Canadian cut-off is much, much higher than the American, and the American poverty rate is still significantly higher.
 
^I avoided that one.

Though I can imagine the next Tory leader threatening to take the program away:

"It didn't used to be this way at all. We'll take on those welfare bums and get back our...Dental Plan"
 
I was about to answer turdrockfromthesun, but it appears that his papers were found to be out of order, and he's been shown the door...
 

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