Dan416
Senior Member
But he cancelled the SELRT so there's one win at least.
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Poll: What Should The New Eglinton/Scarborough LRT/Metro Be Called?
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But he cancelled the SELRT so there's one win at least.
nfitz
Superstar
I guess if your a car-driving NIMBY who doesn't have to drive anywhere near the area during rush-hour it's a gain. But I fail to see how no transit is better than the Rapid Transit that has been cancelled.
Dan416
Senior Member
SELRT wasn't rapid transit anyway. You could just as easily implement a BRT on Sheppard East for a lot less money.
nfitz
Superstar
What you say makes no sense at all. The LRT would be faster (or certainly no slower) than the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), but the faster LRT is not rapid transit, yet the slower bus is rapid transit???
lafard
Active Member
It's called lines-on-a-map-itis.
There is a gap. It might be filled, but probably won't be. Ever. But just in case, let's shoot ourselves in the foot to raise our chances to "slim" from "none".
I guess it's no different from literally shooting yourself in the foot ... if you have the sniffles and want to move up the triage queue.
There is a gap. It might be filled, but probably won't be. Ever. But just in case, let's shoot ourselves in the foot to raise our chances to "slim" from "none".
I guess it's no different from literally shooting yourself in the foot ... if you have the sniffles and want to move up the triage queue.
Dan416
Senior Member
If Toronto is full of defeatists then you're right, Sheppard will never be finished. And we will never get a DRL either.
nfitz
Superstar
Sadly Toronto if full of defeatists ... that was clear when a plurality voted in a mayor who has guaranteed that Sheppard won't be finished.
coffey1
Active Member
Robbed
If Rob Ford is a subway wizard. Why cant he leave the burbs with a semi-efficient transit system until he completes the core subways in 50 years. Im all for subways over LRTs. But this is by far the worst transit system i have seen anyone draw up for the City as a whole.
There are many "priority areas" that would have benefited from the LRT.
If Rob Ford is a subway wizard. Why cant he leave the burbs with a semi-efficient transit system until he completes the core subways in 50 years. Im all for subways over LRTs. But this is by far the worst transit system i have seen anyone draw up for the City as a whole.
There are many "priority areas" that would have benefited from the LRT.
Dan416
Senior Member
Building LRTs to "priority areas" is what got us into this mess in the first place. That's not a transit policy.
The most important thing for Toronto is the DRL, hopefully one that reached up to Eglinton. That would relieve Bloor-Yonge and allow for a more decentralized subway system. Once you have the core subway network (Bloor-Danforth, Yonge-University-Spadina, Sheppard, Eglinton and DRL) then you can build a complementary LRT system (Jane, Finch, WWLRT, etc.) that won't overload any one part of the SYSTEM. That's also one of the problems. That we don't have a subway SYSTEM. It's just two point five lines right now.
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coffey1
Active Member
I agree the core subway system needs to be created. But removing the LRT lines to the suburbs will have minimal impact in achieving that goal. Our governments refuse to fund transit properly and as a municipality you have to work with money you have.
If you're a mother of 5 children and the father comes home with one egg to feed the kids. Do you give it to the oldest? Or do you divide it evenly.
drum118
Superstar
The Ford's Way's
If you don't like the Ford's Way's, they will tell you take the highway.
If you don't like the Ford's Way's, they will tell you take the highway.
MisterF
Senior Member
Nope. People in the real world don't get hung up on technicalities the way people here do. Joe public will generally call it a subway and they'll barely be aware that it's technically LRT. If it walks like a duck...
My vote is for "Eglinton Line". That's what people will call it. Either that or "Blue line" if we start going by colour. Sure London has named lines but Toronto's names are so unweildy. Another good name - "Red line" for the DRL.
He eats it himself because Children's Aid took the kids away and his wife left him.
Dan416
Senior Member
Definitely blue for Eglinton and red for DRL =]
leopetr
Active Member
Let me toss another definition into the discussion:
Subway - Anything with frequency better than every 5 minutes
A lot of North American cities run their "subway" lines at 20 minute or worse frequencies at rush hour. Imagine the reaction on this board if we were to build an Eglinton subway in Toronto, but run trains on it only once every 20 minutes.
Subway - Anything with frequency better than every 5 minutes
A lot of North American cities run their "subway" lines at 20 minute or worse frequencies at rush hour. Imagine the reaction on this board if we were to build an Eglinton subway in Toronto, but run trains on it only once every 20 minutes.
Using frequency is an interesting metric. However, I still think that the definition for a subway should be "a completely grade-separated rail-based transit line that runs primarily underground".