Richard White
Senior Member
That may change in April.
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PM Mark Carney's Canada
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That may change in April.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
I read in the G&M this morning that the world’s demand and use of coal has never been higher.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Politics is downstream of culture. The culture that led to Orban and co being in power for that long hasn't gone a way. Both the EU and NATO are fundamentally flawed that they can't boot members that no longer share the same values.
Richard White
Senior Member
Trust me.
They are seeing the light. The Tiszá party is making headway now that people are seeing the close ties to Trump and Putin.
Hungarians are a proud people, they were invaded and occupied for centuries but retain a desire for self-governance.
When I was there in July there was a clear disdain for Orban. Many of the older generation grew up under Soviet Occupation while Millenials, Gen Z and Alpha grew up under freedom and the EU.
The older generation doesn't want to be under indirect Russian rule again while those born in 1989 or later very much prefer the EU and it's freedoms.
Hungarians see Trump as bad for Hungary and Putin as indirectly ruling Hungary as I said.
The only reason Orban keeps winning is because of poor communications in smaller villages. In larger cities like Budapest, Szeged and Debrecen where there is more than state run media Fidesz doesn't do so well.
Places like Jászalsószentgyörgy, Josvafő and Németbanya where there is virtually no internet connection or cable Fidesz does well. This because the only information people get in these places is state run media and from generous infrastructure spending courtesy of Orban.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
So, who will Carney choose to take on Trump for CUSMA round 2? Just pray that Chrystia Freeland is not rumoured...
UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
I guess this is not a topic that weighing on everyone's minds, but for many reasons..it's a really an important one...
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" - MLK
...and while this maybe an Alberta thing, this erosion to our civil liberties is happening under Carney's Canada.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" - MLK
...and while this maybe an Alberta thing, this erosion to our civil liberties is happening under Carney's Canada.
Full Metal Junkie
Active Member
This "erosion of our civil liberties" was written into the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms from its inception. The notwithstanding clause is the loophole that Trudeau Sr. left in the Charter. What would you have Carney do? Initiate a constitutional reform over this?
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
All rules-based organization - however well intentioned and designed, will always be subjected to those who would intentionally subvert and violate the spirit of the law. Never let rules to prevent one from doing what is necessary and right. What are they doing to do? Sue? Leave? Boycott? Do it.
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PL1
Senior Member
It's an unintended consequence of the notwithstanding clause. I don't think they figured governments would use it like this. However, it's obvious that it should never have been included, or at least had far more restrictions (such as being subject to judicial review. However it was put in place to skirt court decisions)
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
picard102
Senior Member
There are plenty of levers to pull. Giving Alberta a blank cheque on pipelines as a reward is certainly not one of those.
UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
I get that...I am just saying this so that we are aware and not to take anything for granted here. And most certainly, speak up against it...whether you are the PM or a lowly person like me.
wopchop
Building Toronto
Supreme Court is supposed to review Quebec's Bill 21 soon. Hopefully they rein in Notwithstanding Clause, because it's use is accelerating and that is troublesome. Our system is not working properly if you need to preemptively override the Charter for regular issues.
The Federal government could also maybe override with Disallowance, if they had the guts. It might spark a small crisis.
The Federal government could also maybe override with Disallowance, if they had the guts. It might spark a small crisis.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Quebec’s Bill 21 is very popular with Quebecers. To Quebec’s government, it’s not considered an unreasonable imposition to leave your religious garb at home when you’re working in the public sector. You can still believe in, and privately observe whatever version of sky cake you want. I can’t see Quebec backing down at all.
How could Ottawa enforce that? And is the freedom to wear religious garb really the hill to die on for Carney's government?
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Full Metal Junkie
Active Member
Quebec’s Bill 21 is very popular with Quebecers. To Quebec’s government, it’s not considered an unreasonable imposition to leave your religious garb at home when you’re working in the public sector. You can still believe in, and privately observe whatever version of sky cake you want. I can’t see Quebec backing down at all.
Considering that the religious garb in question is the literal physical embodiment of women's oppression by the religion that forces it upon them - a symbol of patriarchy, coercion and restriction that women in that religion have to deal with on a daily basis - I wouldn't publicly touch Bill 21 with a ten foot pole. Whichever side of the argument you fall on with that bill, you will catch a ton of flack.