kEiThZ
Superstar
Gotta love the pandering on home heating from a party that claims to care about climate change. But I guess the Liberals deserve that one after their pandering.
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PM Justin Trudeau's Canada
- Thread starter King of Kensington
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Gotta love the pandering on home heating from a party that claims to care about climate change. But I guess the Liberals deserve that one after their pandering.
Northern Light
Superstar
I agree (that was my last line in my post).
Its a very clunky proposal which doesn't make much sense to me. Inefficient, splatter-gun policy, poorly targeted.
picard102
Senior Member
Policy doesn't win elections. You can win an election with basically none.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
1.2 million temporary residents must leave Canada in 2025 when their status expires. But will they?
While some have sought asylum to extend their stay, others with nothing to go back to may move underground.
www.thestar.com
My expectation is that Trudeau’s government ensure that anyone in the country illegally is removed. And if they are not removed, the TFW/SP numbers be decreased by the number of overstayed visas.
jje1000
Senior Member
Hopefully there will be some teeth to this and a way of actually tracking exit data (it seems like Canada does not actually do so at the moment).Paywall free: https://archive.is/DEIXa1.2 million temporary residents must leave Canada in 2025 when their status expires. But will they?
While some have sought asylum to extend their stay, others with nothing to go back to may move underground.
My expectation is that Trudeau’s government ensure that anyone in the country illegally is removed. And if they are not removed, the TFW/SP numbers be decreased by the number of overstayed visas.
Because if it's like the UK, then there will be problems in actually enforcing returns.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Then we must be more careful about tracking the entry data, and choosing those for the TFW and SP programs on their likelihood of returning to their countries of origin once their worker or student permits are over. Control the entry process and then the exit process is easier.
kEiThZ
Superstar
afransen
Senior Member
Probably too little, too late. It might be the right message, but Canadians don't want to hear it from Trudeau.
jje1000
Senior Member
Also FYI, the processing backlog is now 260,000, a magnitude higher than what it was in 2019.
Globe editorial: The meltdown in Canada’s refugee system
The backlog of pending refugee-claims is now over 260,000. When the Liberals took power, the number was only 9,999. What happened?
www.theglobeandmail.com
Another issue is the asylum/refugee system which has already been gamed out by immigration lawyers:
- If your visa expires you can apply for asylum(add x years);
- If your asylum claim fails you can apply for an appeal (add x years);
- If your appeal fails and you claim a child during the time you are in Canada, you can apply for PR under the the Humanitarian and Compassionate pathway (add x years);
- Etc. etc.
This sort of system is ill-fitted for the 21st century and its hyper-connectivity (see Roxham Rd and its loophole), and must be reformed.
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
Rubs the same way as Kamala saying the border must be fixed. Right message, wrong messenger.
jje1000
Senior Member
I mean it comes off as dishonest (and at best incompetent) when the mess was made under their watch.
Could've, would've, should've...
And of course buried in the lede:
Trudeau says he could have acted faster on immigration
Trudeau says his government could have acted faster on reining in immigration programs, after blaming "bad actors" for gaming the system.
toronto.citynews.ca
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picard102
Senior Member
A lot of politics is lately is finding out norms have gone out the window and that no one is beholden to behaving appropriately.
A bit naive to think in this climate that you wouldn't have corporations and premiers abusing the system.
A bit naive to think in this climate that you wouldn't have corporations and premiers abusing the system.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Bring back the Chretien-Martin team. Or Even Mulroney. During their terms the country was running well, housing, tuition, groceries and fuel were affordable.
picard102
Senior Member
Yes, easy mode. No pandemics, no rage farming internet, or brain rotted conspiracy theories being feed to you by billionaires, Canadian media not owned by right wing Americans. Just governments setting up the country so that the next generation would be worse off in every way.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Actually, so many of the problems we have today is because of their can-kicking. They refused to raise CPP substantially to give us room to cut OAS today. Infrastructure and housing investment tanked on their watch. Med school enrollments too. The military rustout also started under Chretien.