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Mystery Solution in the Works for Trash Problem

no community in Ontario diverts nearly as much waste from landfills.

That is totally untrue.
2002 Diversion Rates (Toronto is up to about 35% now, though other municipalities have progressed too):
York Region - 24%
Toronto at 27%
Kingston - 42%
Waterloo Region - 40%
Niagara Region - 39%
Halton -38%
Guelph - 38%.
Regional Municipality of Peel - 35%
City of London - 35%

In 2002, Toronto's diversion rate was third-lowest in the entire province. Where does Barber get this? Does he just assume it's true and not bother to do any basic research? He said this last time he wrote (arrogantly) about the garbage issue. It really makes me doubt his value as a columnist.
 
Maybe he means by sheer volume, which isn't really fair, since Toronto produces far more trash than any other municipality. I agree that it's disingenuous.
 
Actually Toronto is at 40% diversion now:

www.toronto.ca/garbage/pd...report.pdf

Keep in mind however that a good chunk of the population resides in multi-unit residential buildings, which are notoriously difficult for recycling programs to work. Without them, the rate in Toronto would be 50+%.

AoD
 
Come on Alvin, that's an excuse. There's no reason why the city couldn't force each apartment building to make recycling more convenient. Obviously other municipalities have their own issues. Lower-density and smaller communities would clearly have greater difficulty maintaining the large infrastructure of trucks and plants required for an effective recycling program.

The point is that Barber is using an outright false claim to support his views, and that's wrong.
 
^It might be viewed as an excuse, but it is also a fact. Greenbox collection alone is a difficult program to put in place within large apartment buildings. Many new condo buildings must use private contractors for garbage pick up, and cannot access city garbage services, so one can assume similar issues with recycling pick up.

Can it be done better? Yes, and eventually it will be done.




The article on Pitfield was enertaining. A mistake in voting. A major campaign issue for her. Big oops.

Spare us.
 
My building, less than five years old, is absolutely terrible when it comes to recycling. I have to go all the way down to the parking garage to recycle cans and bottles, and I have to go to the loading dock in the building next door to recycle cardboard.
 
I don’t currently live in a condo but the last building I lived in had a computerized chute were you selected the materials going down and it put the waste in the proper container. It actually worked quite well.
 
I think those chutes are more or less the gold standard for new buildings, but legally-mandated retrofits might, on top of being beyond municipal jurisdiction, raises difficult questions as to who should pay for it, and how to pay for it. It's certainly not a simple issue.

AoD
 
That's exactly the kind of system that every condo should have. I don't know the cost of them, but as long as it isn't too outrageous, it doesn't seem unreasonable to make landlords/condo corporations pay for it, with some city subsidy similar to what you get for energy efficiency and water saving improvements.
 
My building has a recycling room, basically giant blue boxes where you put in glass, cans, paper etc.
 
I used to live in a rental building with many students. Some did not appear to be aware that one is supposed to bag garbage before putting it down the chute. Needless to say, recycling was messy.
 
From the Post:

St. Thomas dump won't solve long-term problems

Glen Grunwald, National Post
Published: Saturday, September 23, 2006

So, here's an interesting ''before and after'' picture:

Before: Dozens of trucks a day carry our garbage (a million tonnes of it per year) to a landfill in Michigan.

After: Dozens of trucks a day carry our garbage (a million tonnes of it per year) to a landfill in St. Thomas.

On the surface, the only difference is that the trucks turn off Highway 401 a few hours sooner. Realistically, the big difference is that Toronto will own the St. Thomas dump and, the hope is, not have to worry about having the door shut on our garbage shipments.

To be fair, having control over our waste stream is a major step forward, although the mayor of London, who is plenty steamed about having our trucks full of trash rumbling through her suburbs every day, may have something to say about that.

Anyway, it seems to me that the real point of this issue is being missed amid the debate about costs, contracts and confidentiality.

For all the years that we've been trucking our garbage away, everyone from environmentalists to business owners has been asking, "When are we going to take care of our own problem and find a real, affordable, long-term, local, environmentally sustainable solution?"

I don't think the dump purchase answers that question.

It still assumes that sticking our garbage in a hole in the ground is the thing to do; we're just changing the location and regulation of the hole.

Sure, having our own dump takes the pressure off and should give us more time to figure things out, without the 2010 deadline for ending shipments to our old dumping grounds in the States.

We'll find out in a few months if we've purchased that breathing room at a reasonable cost, when details of the St. Thomas deal are finally made public.

However, even if we had a free dump dumped in our laps, it does not represent a permanent solution to our garbage challenge. We're still faced with the facts that our city creates a huge amount of waste, that our government says we can't afford to push our diversion rate to the 60% target, and that the costs (financial and environmental) of taking out our trash are almost certainly going to increase every year.

How do we reduce the amount of garbage we create and its environmental impact? Can we look at more of the waste stream as a potential resource?

How do we encourage (and afford) more reduction and recycling?

What role should modern technologies, including energy from waste, play in our waste management system? Should there be a closer link between the cost of waste disposal to the community and its cost to individuals?

Sweeping them under a different carpet doesn't make these questions go away. If we're not careful, it could provide another excuse for ignoring these queries and delaying the search for real answers.

If so, the St. Thomas dump will eventually run out of room and we'll still be looking at the same challenges we face right now.

After everyone descrying the fact that our predecessors should have taken action years ago, but failed to do so, it would be the worst kind of irony to open up the newspaper a decade from now and read an editorial about Toronto's looming garbage crisis.

How's this for an idea?

Let's take advantage of the breathing room provided by our shiny new garbage dump to actually solve the problem, once and for all.

- Glen Grunwald is president & CEO of the Toronto Board of Trade. He doesn't believe in the garbage fairy.

© National Post 2006
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It's telling that even Glen Grunwald isn't necessarily slamming the deal.

AoD
 
It seems to me that all these problems could be solved by transporting the trash to the St. Thomas dump by rail. If necessary, they could build a transloading facility at the nearest point on the railway line to the landfill, dramatically shortening the truck haul and taking it off the 401.
 
I was looking at the map and seeing how close the dump site is to the rail spur into the Ford St. Thomas plant (which isn't very close to St. Thomas itself). That could make a lot of sense.
 
I'm so very frustrated that it's the city's policy not to provide greenbins or organic pickup to apartments above commercial properties (or at least I was told by the clerk at the local waste transfer station). If the units support recycling pickup, why not offer greenbins as well? It's certainly not a storage issue - there's an alleyway behind the buildings.
 

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