Multiple Mississauga Neighbourhoods Could Undergo Massive Change

[Jasonzed]

https://www.insauga.com/multiple-mississauga-neighbourhoods-could-undergo-massive-change

 

[Northern Light]

https://www.insauga.com/multiple-mississauga-neighbourhoods-could-undergo-massive-change
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There's a great deal of potential in the ideas discussed above.

For the most part, this would be very positive for Mississauga, if done well.

My only hesitation would be that some of the proposals clearly don't look beyond their immediate site of focus, and in so doing dimish their potential just a bit.

There is a need to set up for a finer-grained, more grid-like street network in a larger swath of the City.

Its all well and good to re-draw one block like that, but that won't help set up a more efficient grid for transit or cycling, nor promote redevelopment of adjoining areas on its own.

I realize one has to draw the line somewhere for a given phase of work, but what I'm looking for is that a new finer-grained grid sets up its future extension beyond the site in question.

 

[Tuscani01]

I wish Heartland was included. It needs lot's of help.

 

[doady]

I wish Heartland was included. It needs lot's of help.

Heartland is not a node, and has never been considered as such by the city. And for good reason. A node needs to be located in an residential area, and Heartland is located in an industrial area, in the Operating Area of the airport, where residential development is prohibited.

Major Nodes

Community Nodes

 

[Admiral Beez]

In 1976 we moved from the UK and bought a house near Derry Rd. and Winston Churchill. Looking back on my years there from 76 to 1988 with my brothers cycling everywhere like to Kelso Park, jumping off the drainage cover into Lake Aquitaine and Granny's Hole in Streetsville, it is remarkable just how built up the area is. Hazel's legacy is uncontrolled residential development.

 

[Tuscani01]

Heartland is not a node, and has never been considered as such by the city. And for good reason. A node needs to be located in an residential area, and Heartland is located in an industrial area, in the Operating Area of the airport, where residential development is prohibited.

Major Nodes

Community Nodes

The City is looking at reducing restrictions in the airport operating area to allow for more development. Heartland is surrounded by residential (I lived most of my life there), and while high rise likely won't be permitted any time soon - there is potential to redevelop some of the parking lots with midrises. It's a missed opportunity to not include it.

 

[Transportfan]

Hazel's legacy is uncontrolled residential development.

She was no worse than any other suburban mayor. I don't know why she gets singled out so much.

 

[Admiral Beez]

She was no worse than any other suburban mayor. I don't know why she gets singled out so much.

Because she started in the 1970s with thousands of acres of the province’s most arable land and finished with all of it turned over the developers and paved over. I watched it happen from our relatively high density town house complex from 1976 onwards.

 

[doady]

Mississauga grew after or at same time as Scarborough, Etobicoke, North York. Mississauga is neither unique nor was it the first. If Mississauga's growth was truly uncontrolled, this thread wouldn't exist. Erin Mills Town Centre wouldn't be surrounded by undeveloped land for future high-rise development (the Central Erin Mills node). For uncontrolled growth see Brampton. Just pure houses, no high density there.

The City is looking at reducing restrictions in the airport operating area to allow for more development. Heartland is surrounded by residential (I lived most of my life there), and while high rise likely won't be permitted any time soon - there is potential to redevelop some of the parking lots with midrises. It's a missed opportunity to not include it.

I live in exempt part of airport operating area beside Heartland. Noise is already bad enough, imagine people living even closer to the airport.

Heartland is no better than the power centre at Winston Churchill and Argentia. Isolated, beside highway, in a cheap industrial area, designed for people to drive to and from store to store. In other words, just another power centre.

If Heartland was designated as a node, it would be the only one not located beside a transit station or a priority transit corridor. And even Square One doesn't have enough transit for the parking lots to be redeveloped.

If the city wants more residential in the airport operating area, then building around the LRT station and office buildings at Hurontario/Britannia would probably make more sense. Lots of undeveloped land there too. Much easier and higher potential.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Mississauga grew after or at same time as Scarborough, Etobicoke, North York. Mississauga is neither unique nor was it the first. If Mississauga's growth was truly uncontrolled, this thread wouldn't exist. Erin Mills Town Centre wouldn't be surrounded by undeveloped land for future high-rise development (the Central Erin Mills node). For uncontrolled growth see Brampton. Just pure houses, no high density there.
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The "excuse" for not having "high density" in Brampton is the close location of the city being near the airport. Only an "excuse", since other cities (IE. Hong Kong) have high density close to their airports.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Mississauga grew after or at same time as Scarborough, Etobicoke, North York. Mississauga is neither unique nor was it the first. If Mississauga's growth was truly uncontrolled, this thread wouldn't exist. Erin Mills Town Centre wouldn't be surrounded by undeveloped land for future high-rise development (the Central Erin Mills node). For uncontrolled growth see Brampton. Just pure houses, no high density there.



I live in exempt part of airport operating area beside Heartland. Noise is already bad enough, imagine people living even closer to the airport.

Heartland is no better than the power centre at Winston Churchill and Argentia. Isolated, beside highway, in a cheap industrial area, designed for people to drive to and from store to store. In other words, just another power centre.

If Heartland was designated as a node, it would be the only one not located beside a transit station or a priority transit corridor. And even Square One doesn't have enough transit for the parking lots to be redeveloped.

If the city wants more residential in the airport operating area, then building around the LRT station and office buildings at Hurontario/Britannia would probably make more sense. Lots of undeveloped land there too. Much easier and higher potential.

I don't think @W. K. Lis that power centres are designed to be places where people take public transit to. Most are designed with the suburban automobile driver in mind. Look at the Stockyards shopping plazas in Toronto. They have good public transit access, but they also have WAY too many parking spots.

 

[doady]

Trinity Common in Brampton is not too terrible for a power centre. But it's also not located in an industrial area like the other power centres.

Heartland, Winston Churchill/Argentia, Dundas/Vega, even Stockyards, they are located to be separate from the community, not integrated. They are not going to be nodes.