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Move Ontario - 1.2 Billion for Transit

Two pointz:
1. Toronto shouldn't be required to pay a red penny for this. This is the province's priority, not the city's.

2. Unless there will be a mechanism for York Region and Vaughan to contribute to the operation of this line, we should simply say, thanks but no thanks.

Looks like Sheppard line, part 2.
 
steeles is far enough for the subway. if vaughan wants, they can build a streetcar network. one benefit the extension is that it will make more usage for the spadina line.


what's GO transit getting?
 
Alright, I think it's safe to say unless they really screw up, Liberals have my vote next election.

Too bad they aren't doing so well in the poles.
 
I have no idea why Miller is so happy. This new subway line will be a Trojan horse bringing with it decades of operating expenses which will be borne by the taxpayers of Toronto and principally benefitting residents of York region. If the budget had addressed Toronto's long term budget issues like downloading, I could live with it. But the budget said nothing about the isse. SD, if you live in Toronto, there's no reason to rejoice.
 
I have no idea why Miller is so happy. This new subway line will be a Trojan horse bringing with it decades of operating expenses which will be borne by the taxpayers of Toronto and principally benefitting residents of York region. If the budget had addressed Toronto's long term budget issues like downloading, I could live with it. But the budget said nothing about the isse. SD, if you live in Toronto, there's no reason to rejoice.

Christ, man. You're in a cheery mood.
 
It looks like Toronto will, for the first time, be proceeding with two new subway lines at the same time. I realize that nothing is a done deal in Scarborough yet, but I really can't believe that the existing Scarb. light rail would be replaced by anything other than a subway.

It is now over to:
> the feds, to cough up some contribution;
> the City of Toronto, to promote intensification along the new line by rezoning underutliized lands;
> the city above, to do likewise along their part of the line including development of a real City Centre (very slow in coming so far!)
 
It looks like Toronto will, for the first time, be proceeding with two new subway lines at the same time.

I know its kind of silly, but it would mean more to me if it actually was a new line, and a new colour on the map. Eglinton subway. Airport connection. Oh, dare to dream.


Here's a question: Are they going to build all the way as far as Highway 7 at once? I thought they had only done the EA as far as Steeles. I suppose they can start the extension while they conduct the EA between Steels and Highway 7.
 
Here's the expressway projects in the budget:

-providing a total of $3.4 billion to improve the provincial highway network in southern Ontario and $1.8 billion for highways in northern Ontario. These investments will renew provincial highways and bridges and help address congestion and safety issues on key highway corridors;
- widening Highway 406 from Beaverdams Road to Port Robinson Road in Niagara Region;
- extending Highway 404 to Ravenshoe Road in East Gwillimbury in York Region;
- extending Highway 410 from Bovaird Drive in Brampton to join Highway 10 north of Mayfield Road in Caledon;
- widening Highway 401 from Sydenham Road to Montreal Street in Kingston;
- widening the QEW near St. Catharines, improving safety, reducing congestion and improving border access; and
- moving forward with the environmental assessment for the extension of Highway 427 in Vaughan.
 
Well, the Libs have this pole's vote. Let's see, the Greenbelt, City of Toronto Act, new Heritage, and now Transit. It's not that it's perfect, but from a Toronto point of view they are doing very well.
 
I actually think this is going to be good for Toronto. It might not be in the immediate term, but in the long term I can this only being a benefit in the end.

Why? Build out to Vaughan. You bring more commuters into the city from the outlying suburbs which is only good for Toronto. More workers, more visitors, more people without cars. It also makes use of a line, which from what I seem to understand, has the capacity available to handle more riders (unlike Yonge). Add the replacement of Scarborough RT with a subway (and maybe an extension while they are at it). And for the trifecta (looking a little further ahead) finally completing the stumpway called Shephard all the way to SCC. It could be entirely realistic to see all these projects done or near completion by 2015.

I would see these projects as being really smart choices for Toronto (and some suburbs that immediately neighbor it). Toronto is the suburbs as well as its downtown area and increasingly so, Toronto is bleeding into the 905. Viewing the city as such, these outer areas are the ones that really need to see improved transit connections, and will probably benefit the most from them. And, once those 3 projects were complete, the demand for a DRL or looking towards other lines such as Eglinton would probably be very likely.

I know some might disagree with this opinion but I would also remind people that this is just one budget and come election time Toronto and the GTA are likely to see more investment and a few more projects. And in reality, any transit projects are good projects at this point in time. The TTC might be a respectable by North American standards, but weak internationally. Its going to take many decades before Toronto (and other Canadian cities) will be able to actually claim to be transit accessable regions so for the time being I tend to view transit projects in terms of 'whatever, wherever'. Take what you can get, and move on to the next battle.

Edit: And for those worried that Toronto is going to end up paying for the 905 with this extension, I would assume that by the time this extension is completed, the GTTA, or similair agency would be in place. I would also assume that with such an agency issues such as assigning maintanence costs and distributing fares (in the case of intermunicipal trips) would be adressed and be dealt with fairly. The 416 and 905 regions are more and more going to be intermingling with each other in terms of transit so get used to the idea of the TTC making a few more trips outside of its usual neighborhood.
 
The Libs do deserve praise. They might not be the most confidence inspiring government, but they seem to be sticking to that old Bill Davis line... "dull works". They're putting proper thought into their moves and decisions and proving that it is possible for the government to do something for everyone (well, almost everyone). Sometimes the best governments are the least experienced and least confident ones; they don't have the arrogance that leads them to making hasty decisions.

Hopefully the electorate will realise this and factor it in properly when making their decision during the election.
 
1. Toronto shouldn't be required to pay a red penny for this. This is the province's priority, not the city's.
Toronto is NOT required to pay any funds towards the Spadina subway project.

City council could choose to turn down the funding. In order to receive the $1.3B in funding (Feds will match the province) the city must build the line. We could opt not to build the line and not receive the funding.

We have turned down infrastructure funding in the past -- even recently. There is still about $120M available for the Front Street Extension project from the feds and province. Since Toronto will probably not go forward with the project those funds have gone towards other priorities (likely debt/deficit payments).


Despite the negatives involved with increasing TTC operational expenses I do think the city will stand to benefit significantly from the Spadina line extension from tax revenues and fees.

Bad for the TTC budget. Good (after a time) for the cities budget overall.
 
Why stop at the VCC when Vaughan Mills and Wonderland are just beyond the horizon? I'd rather see Kipling go out to Square One first and they don't even want it. Just build the damn DRL and then get started on Eglinton (East, especially).

edit - take that $670 million and give every cent to GO. Actually, save enough to fund EAs for Viva and Peel LRTs and make sure they all use the same technology so that there's one cohesive 905 network.

"$1 million towards the EA relating to the future Scarborough subway"

I guess they could have waited until the RT study is released on May 15...this makes the study kind of pointless.
 

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