Montréal Transit Developments

[jje1000]

Also the Metro here in Montreal is much better than the subway in Toronto. The Alstom Metro trains are impressive.

Also noticed here in Montreal they don't leave space for ads in the interior of their rolling stock. I see no ads anywhere when riding the REM or Metro trains. Gives the interiors a cleaner appearance.

Personally IMO:
- The layout of the existing Metro is more 'useful' in Montreal, though hopefully it will change in Toronto with the eventual opening of the Eglinton Crosstown + Ontario Line. If we can reform the streetcar network, that would be a further bonus.
- The Metro is generally cleaner-looking, with better architectural integrity & consolidated signage and wayfinding.
- I am very tired of Toronto subway's lacklustre station maintenance- stuff like missing ceiling slats, awful info screens, and messy signage adds to the sensation of disrepair, and stations have become a mismash of completing design languages.
- The Toronto Rockets are very much a T1 successor in all their utilitarian frumpiness, and lack the design sensibilities that the Montreal Alstom trains have. Here's hoping the next generation of Rockets will be better.

 

[Bojaxs]

Personally IMO:
- The layout of the existing Metro is more 'useful' in Montreal, though hopefully it will change in Toronto with the eventual opening of the Eglinton Crosstown + Ontario Line. If we can reform the streetcar network, that would be a further bonus.
- The Metro is generally cleaner-looking, with better architectural integrity & consolidated signage and wayfinding.
- I am very tired of Toronto subway's lacklustre station maintenance- stuff like missing ceiling slats, awful info screens, and messy signage adds to the sensation of disrepair, and stations have become a mismash of completing design languages.
- The Toronto Rockets are very much a T1 successor in all their utilitarian frumpiness, and lack the design sensibilities that the Montreal Alstom trains have. Here's hoping the next generation of Rockets will be better.

Yes, the missing ceiling panels in Toronto subway stations revealing all the pipes, wires, etc. give the stations a "grungy" appearance.

 

[jje1000]

Yes, the missing ceiling panels in Toronto subway stations revealing all the pipes, wires, etc. give the stations a "grungy" appearance.

The worse thing is that some networks like New York's have been able to make 'grungy' work work with a very strong signage/wayfinding design that acts as an 'unifying' system language.

The TTC's wayfinding and signage design is quite weak, so it can't even do that. Also IMO missing slats (and panels) are worse than exposed pipework, as the latter can be intentional in its utilitarian nature, while the former indicates neglect. I would almost prefer if the TTC removed the ceilings completely if they can't manage to keep them intact.