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drum118

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Triplinx shows the move to Kipling Bus Terminal for Jan 4th, 2021 but the service changes from MiWay does not indicate the move (miway.ca/Jan4).

26 will be the only route that will continue to service Islington Station, but it does not enter the terminal. 26 will also be the only route that will use Burnhamthorpe east of the 427; 20 and 70 will use the 427 to and from Kipling Station.

1, 11, 35, 70 WB, 71 EB, 76, 101, 108, 109 would follow the same route to Subway Crescent using Dundas.

3 EB - Bloor > Auckland > Dundas > Subway Crescent
3 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Auckland > Bloor

20 EB - Burnhamthorpe > 427 > Dundas > Subway Crescent
20 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > 427 > Burnhamthorpe

26 EB - Burnhamthorpe > Cordova > Central Park Roadway > Islington > Bloor > Dundas > Subway Crescent
26 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Bloor > Islington > Central Park Roadway > Cordova > Burnhamthorpe

70 EB - QEW > 427 > Dundas > Subway Crescent

71 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Kipling > QEW

Paper tickets will no longer be valid on Jan 1st, 2021.
 

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Triplinx shows the move to Kipling Bus Terminal for Jan 4th, 2021 but the service changes from MiWay does not indicate the move (miway.ca/Jan4).

26 will be the only route that will continue to service Islington Station, but it does not enter the terminal. 26 will also be the only route that will use Burnhamthorpe east of the 427; 20 and 70 will use the 427 to and from Kipling Station.

1, 11, 35, 70 WB, 71 EB, 76, 101, 108, 109 would follow the same route to Subway Crescent using Dundas.

3 EB - Bloor > Auckland > Dundas > Subway Crescent
3 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Auckland > Bloor

20 EB - Burnhamthorpe > 427 > Dundas > Subway Crescent
20 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > 427 > Burnhamthorpe

26 EB - Burnhamthorpe > Cordova > Central Park Roadway > Islington > Bloor > Dundas > Subway Crescent
26 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Bloor > Islington > Central Park Roadway > Cordova > Burnhamthorpe

70 EB - QEW > 427 > Dundas > Subway Crescent

71 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Kipling > QEW

Paper tickets will no longer be valid on Jan 1st, 2021.
Not surprised with Jan 4th day as I was expecting it based on the board changes. Surprised other route changes not taking place outside the Hub change.

The move to Kipling depends on the work for the connection to TTC including the elevator in the PPUDO building.

There is a tunnel from the hub that connects to the existing tunnels will have steps to TTC fare entrance like before, but should be a ramp since it only a few stairs. There is an elevator in PPUDO building that will allow accessibility riders, walkers and strollers to get to the surface and then cross the Plaza area to TTC accessibility entrance. No idea if the elevator is in place and working for the PPUDO, but the plaza area not done the last time I saw it, but should be done before Christmas.

Where the stairs were in TTC parking lot fir the tunnel, they have been rebuilt with a new TTC sign there now.

If the the elevator is not working when the move take place, accessibility riders will have to use the north entrance to gain access to the surface walkway to TTC entrance that has an elevator for both the Hub as well GO platform.

As for 26, it been a given from day one that it would remain as per the inbound route, but no clear info for the outbound route. Base on this change, it will make the normal stop on Islington and pickup riders on Bloor St, but which stop? Most likely the current one with the shelter. Layover most likely be an issue unless a stop and go with layover at the Hub. For outbound, there is most likely going to be a stop on Islington to pickup riders. Route setup for the take over of TTC route 50 that Metrolinx wants to see based on my Business Case years ago as well TTC route 49 by 3. Both routes are on TTC 20 route chopping block these days as well back in the early 2000's

Starting Dec 21, the new express artic's will start to enter service and not fast enough since miWay short buses due to age, fires and accidents. The artic's will replace the 40' so they can be use on local routes which is very common this past year.
 

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Triplinx shows the move to Kipling Bus Terminal for Jan 4th, 2021 but the service changes from MiWay does not indicate the move (miway.ca/Jan4).

26 will be the only route that will continue to service Islington Station, but it does not enter the terminal. 26 will also be the only route that will use Burnhamthorpe east of the 427; 20 and 70 will use the 427 to and from Kipling Station.

1, 11, 35, 70 WB, 71 EB, 76, 101, 108, 109 would follow the same route to Subway Crescent using Dundas.

3 EB - Bloor > Auckland > Dundas > Subway Crescent
3 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Auckland > Bloor

20 EB - Burnhamthorpe > 427 > Dundas > Subway Crescent
20 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > 427 > Burnhamthorpe

26 EB - Burnhamthorpe > Cordova > Central Park Roadway > Islington > Bloor > Dundas > Subway Crescent
26 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Bloor > Islington > Central Park Roadway > Cordova > Burnhamthorpe

70 EB - QEW > 427 > Dundas > Subway Crescent

71 WB - Subway Crescent > Dundas > Kipling > QEW

Paper tickets will no longer be valid on Jan 1st, 2021.
What will happen to the Islington bus terminal when MiWay buses move to Kipling?
 

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What will happen to the Islington bus terminal when MiWay buses move to Kipling?
Be torn down with TTC moving their routes to the south end until a new terminal and station is built along with affordable housing. The south platform is not on the roof of the concourse that is not structural sound and why the first 2 bays were close. TTC only needs 3 platforms.

No idea if TTC will put a roof over the platforms until the new one is built.
 

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Be torn down with TTC moving their routes to the south end until a new terminal and station is built along with affordable housing. The south platform is not on the roof of the concourse that is not structural sound and why the first 2 bays were close. TTC only needs 3 platforms.

No idea if TTC will put a roof over the platforms until the new one is built.
The last time I was there is on Saturday, and the terminal is worn out and it's filled with pigeons.
 

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Be torn down with TTC moving their routes to the south end until a new terminal and station is built along with affordable housing. The south platform is not on the roof of the concourse that is not structural sound and why the first 2 bays were close. TTC only needs 3 platforms.

No idea if TTC will put a roof over the platforms until the new one is built.
Also what will the TTC routing look like when the TTC will move their route the south end.
 

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Also what will the TTC routing look like when the TTC will move their route the south end.
All TTC is doing is closing all the bus bays and moving the various routes to the south platform and then tear the terminal down. No changes to routes, other having them use the south platform.

As to when TTC tear the terminal down and build the new one unknown at this time, but was subject when miWay move as well creating an OADO station.
 

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Updated system maps depicting changes for Kipling Bus Terminal: https://www.mississauga.ca/miway-transit/schedules-and-maps/maps/transit-system-maps/

The recent rehabilitation of Erin Mills Parkway added a multiuse path, a new sidewalk on the north side between Burnhamthorpe and Collegeway, and removed a couple of channelized right-turns. It also included 2 transit priority improvements:

1) A new bus-only left turn lane near South Common Bus Terminal. It allows buses to bypass long queues from eastbound Burnhamthorpe to northbound Erin Mills.
Burhamthorpe.jpg


2) A precursor to the Dundas BRT, bus queue jump lanes with "smart right-turn channels" in all directions at Dundas and Erin Mills:
Dundas Erin Mills 2.jpg
 

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Similar to the dedicated left turn lanes at Queen Street and Central Park Drive in Brampton installed in 2010 to allow Zum buses to get in and out of the Bramalea terminal easily.

The signalized MUP crossings are a nice touch, as is the removal of the right turn slip lanes at Burnhamthorpe and Erin Mills.
 

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Mississauga seems to be on a bit of a spree adding cross-rides and bike signals. They have added some that they didn't even mention in their plans.
 

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Mississauga seems to be on a bit of a spree adding cross-rides and bike signals. They have added some that they didn't even mention in their plans.

In this case, they were added by Peel Region, which controls Erin Mills Parkway. The region added these recently to all four corners of the Queen and Gore Road intersection in eastern Brampton. Brampton too has been installing a few of these lately, which are a big improvement over the "stop - dismount to cross" signs, which are generally ignored.

On Winston Churchill, where there's been a MUP on the east side for decades, the Britannia Road intersection was recently upgraded with cyclist signals and cross-rides, but that's a Peel Region intersection (Britannia Road). Elsewhere on WCB (which is a Mississauga road north of Dundas and south of the 407 where it's not the regional boundary), it's still the old crappy dismount signage.
 
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Those doubled "Stop for pedestrians" and yield signs are too much visual clutter. Same for those "cross rides". Just ride across the turning ramp...who needs those ugly white stripes across them.
 

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That is just a crosswalk, not a crossride. A crossride has 'elephant feet' or white boxes lining it.

Crossride with bike signal:

I think Mississauga has said they want to eliminate channelized right turns like that shown in the photo. That would help with the visual clutter of the yield sign and extra cross-walk! Unfortunately, Mississauga can only suggest this to Peel on regional roads such as this.

Honestly, not sure if you're just joking/trolling or if you are being sincere.
 

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Sunday night marked the end for Mississauga (miWay) Transit for picking up riders on TTC Property at Islington Bus Terminal with the moving all service to the new Kipling Transit Hub for start of service on Monday Jan 4, 2021.

Route 26 will still service Islington Subway Station in both direction as on street service only. 26 will follow its normal route coming into Toronto to Islington and will then procced to the Kipling Transit Hub by Bloor and Dundas. It will pickup riders on its way there like it did on its way out of the city. 26 will pickup riders at Kipling Transit Hub who want to go to Islington and then follow the Dundas/Bloor route back to Islington Ave. It will pickup and drop off riders along the route to Islington as well at the Islington Ave Stop for the Subway. It will then follow the route it came in on and pickup riders who want to go to Mississauga.

Since Mississauga runs 7/24 routes to/from Islington before the change that allow riders to transfer to/from TTC 300 night route, no word as what will take place now for routes stopping at Kipling and not connecting anymore to 300. Route 3 can cover some of it or riders will have to do some walking to/from Aukland Rd from/to Kipling Transit Hub to deal with the 300 issue. 26 doesn't run 7/24 and has poor service in the first place.

With Mississauga (miWay) Transit now at Kipling, TTC has the option of moving its routes at Islington Terminal to the south outside platform to deal with the structural soundest issue. TTC has already close 2 bus bays down and has wanted to close all of them as well tearing the structure down close to 10 years. As to when TTC may make changes to the terminal is unknown, but TTC needs to build accessibly access to the subway station by 2025 and this will require a new 4 bay for the buses.

Since the City is planning on putting affordable housing on the whole site now, the new terminal could be included in the plan or stay with the stand alone structure next to CP Corridor.
 

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