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Metrolinx: Presto Fare Card

The second (and much bigger) problem is that several transit systems use POP, and anyone would be able to get away without paying by saying they lost their phone during the trip or the battery just died (or people would be getting ticketed if either of those was legitimately true).
This is no different than when TTC Connect app existed, and similarly with the YRT/Viva Pay app. Both of these apps state that the onus is on the customer to make sure their phone is charged if they want to use the app.
 
This is no different than when TTC Connect app existed, and similarly with the YRT/Viva Pay app. Both of these apps state that the onus is on the customer to make sure their phone is charged if they want to use the app.

From here:
10. What do I do if my phone dies or stops working while I am travelling?
You will need to purchase a new ticket. You can purchase a ticket with cash, from a ticket machine or use a PRESTO card. You will not lose any tickets that have already been purchased in your YRT/Viva Pay app account.

YRT/Viva is not responsible for mobile devices that are not working, including batteries dying or any phone/carrier related issues.
 
At Queens Park Station while there’s only 2 Presto Readers:
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Something interesting while I was looking through the next TTC meeting agenda:
Jan Richards and Allan Foster, TTC Farecard Team, discussed the proposed updates to the information displayed on PRESTO fare payment screens. Customers have shared concerns of not being aware of the amount charged when tapping, and that managing their balances is difficult as these items are not displayed. It was proposed that the amount paid and card balance be displayed briefly upon tapping. It was also suggested that PRESTO equipment in the 905 area have audio capabilities, along with the installation of an earphone jack.
 
Something interesting while I was looking through the next TTC meeting agenda:
Jan Richards and Allan Foster, TTC Farecard Team, discussed the proposed updates to the information displayed on PRESTO fare payment screens. Customers have shared concerns of not being aware of the amount charged when tapping, and that managing their balances is difficult as these items are not displayed. It was proposed that the amount paid and card balance be displayed briefly upon tapping. It was also suggested that PRESTO equipment in the 905 area have audio capabilities, along with the installation of an earphone jack.

I recall mentioning this last year... the whole reason why theres no display of the balances despite having lcd displays is because they were afraid of being sued by advocates who felt it was unfair that people could see the balances.
TTC obviously bent over to them rather than find a better solution.
 
From the February 2018 CEO report:

"The 2018 schedule and adoption plan is being finalized with PRESTO. This includes the implementation of single use tickets (LUMs) in Q2 2108 and the two hour transfer in Q3 2018 as well a number of other key deliverables to support adoption."
 
It was also suggested that PRESTO equipment in the 905 area have audio capabilities, along with the installation of an earphone jack.
yeah and this won't create delays well someone fiddles around with a headphone jack well other people are waiting to board a streetcar or bus out in the cold or even enter astaion.
 
yeah and this won't create delays well someone fiddles around with a headphone jack well other people are waiting to board a streetcar or bus out in the cold or even enter astaion.
You have to ask though, how often do you see the headphone jacks at ATMs or presto machines being used by visually impaired people?
 
Just found out that Presto has been charging me full fare for months when the account and the card details clearly show a concession. Just been on the phone for an hour, first because their website is buggy, wouldn't show my February transactions (problem is related to the drop down arrow top right, I suspect a Java issue, they agree, Firefox using customers been complaining a lot) (I use Chromium, so that's not it) but Presto's service reps don't help. First one (a "website specialist") actually understood my angst after my repeating it slowly three times, then she agreed. "I'll send a report to the back office"...OK. That was to fix the buggy on-screen java.

Hang up, then get website working properly, only to find the overcharging has been going on at least since January. History not available before then. I call back (and call time and again, since the menu is screwed up too) and ask about the overcharging. "Can't help you, not a Presto problem, I'll put you through to the TTC". It's a recorded message, no-one there. More wasted time. But it's not their problem! They only supply taps or not, not what the software charges.

Call back yet again, finally get someone who agrees it's their problem, and they're taking it very seriously. I'll also be getting the overcharge penalties I've been paying too. Not a lot of cash, but it's the principle of being fugged then spit on after.
 
You have to ask though, how often do you see the headphone jacks at ATMs or presto machines being used by visually impaired people?

Indeed. For the very small visually impaired community, it seems like it would be easier just to pull up the presto page on one's phone or computer and check the balance there, or visit a self-serve kiosk in the station, to get an audible balance that way, rather than fumble with headphones and hold up everybody boarding the bus.
 
Just found out that Presto has been charging me full fare for months when the account and the card details clearly show a concession. Just been on the phone for an hour, first because their website is buggy, wouldn't show my February transactions (problem is related to the drop down arrow top right, I suspect a Java issue, they agree, Firefox using customers been complaining a lot) (I use Chromium, so that's not it) but Presto's service reps don't help. First one (a "website specialist") actually understood my angst after my repeating it slowly three times, then she agreed. "I'll send a report to the back office"...OK. That was to fix the buggy on-screen java.
I've had no problems accessing the website using Google Chrome on both my PC and my Blackberry (running Nougat).

And only 2 months? I just checked quickly, and had no problem pulling May-June 2016.

That's an odd error. Haven't heard that before. Does it make a regular noise or a concession noise?

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