Mayor Olivia Chow's Toronto

[Northern Light]

While :I'm waiting on the detailed budget revisions..............

Councillor Bradford, master of feigned outrage, LOL, appears to have gotten the mayor onside with, to be fair, a rather straight forward, sensible motion.

The motion deals w/the City putting up all these tobogganing prohibited signs this year, and deciding not to put up bails of hay around trees/poles that a tobogganer might hit, in parks where tobogganing isn't specifically sanctioned.

This is actually Bradford as his best; regrettably, something we haven't seen since he championed the Danforth Bike Lanes.

 

[picard102]

It's interesting. Most people who are in rent-controlled units pay significantly below market rate (as they should), and might be the ones who could afford a little more.

I doubt that. Most people I know, myself included, are stuck in the units they are in because they can't afford more. I doubt I'll ever be able to move unless I leave the city entirely.

 

[SubHuman]

... put up bails of hay around trees/poles that a tobogganer might hit, in parks where tobogganing isn't specifically sanctioned...

Is that a joke? I don't understand how anyone tobogganing could accidentally hit a tree. They would have to be aiming for it.

 

[Richard White]

Is that joke? I don't understand how anyone tobogganing could accidentally hit a tree. They would have to be aiming for it.

Mmm if you hit a mound of snow you can catch air and go flying off in an unknown direction. You can also hit a patch of ice and slide off somewhere.

The point I am making is that things do not always go according to plan.

 

[SubHuman]

Mmm if you hit a mound of snow you can catch air and go flying off in an unknown direction. You can also hit a patch of ice and slide off somewhere.

The point I am making is that things do not always go according to plan.

But only if they were unbelievably dumb enough to be aiming themselves along a track with a tree close enough to hit in the first place.

 

[Richard White]

But only if they were unbelievably dumb enough to be aiming themselves along a track with a tree close enough to hit in the first place.

Kids will be kids.

When I, like alot of us here were kids we all did stupid things and sometimes even ended up in the hospital. Some of us were smart and learned after the first time while others injured themselves so often Childrens Aid was called.

Kids play, kids get hurt.. things happen. It is better to minimize the injury than it is to say don't do something.

 

[Northern Light]

But only if they were unbelievably dumb enough to be aiming themselves along a track with a tree close enough to hit in the first place.

In fairness, loss of control is a thing, and some saucers/sleds etc do go sideways or angled, sometimes kids also fall off and roll in a different direction at speed.

Its also not uncommon to underestimate how far a sled can go in certain conditions, if you get up to a good speed, on a steep incline you can keep going, at speed for upwards of 50M from the bottom of the hill, many people find that out the hard way.

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To be clear, I favour fewer rules, more permissions and accepting greater risk; but while I think the City can engage in grossly excessive risk management, I do understand that some serious injuries do happen, some a result of stupidity, some not, either way, good to mitigate the risk of the worst outcomes, where practical.

 

[Northern Light]

The new Mayoral Budget:

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mayoraldecisions/2024/mayor0001.pdf

I will provide fulsome comment, as appropriate, once I've had a chance to digest it all!

 

[chrisw]

Province says it will help pay for 2026 World Cup in Toronto — with strings attached

Queen’s Park has pledged $97 million, half of the $184 million the city had been seeking from the federal and provincial governments

www.thestar.com

The province confirmed in a letter to the city that Ontario has "conditionally committed" up to $97 million for the event.

Staff's $300 million estimation of the tournament costs is based on Toronto staging five games. The city would pay some of the costs but has asked the federal and provincial governments to split $184 million.

 

[dowlingm]

Province says it will help pay for 2026 World Cup in Toronto — with strings attached

Queen’s Park has pledged $97 million, half of the $184 million the city had been seeking from the federal and provincial governments

www.thestar.com

Matt Elliott gets action?

 

[generalcanada]

According to the letter, Ontario's funding is contingent on the federal government putting up a matching contribution. The province is also stipulating that the money it provides be "exclusively limited to investments that will build lasting public infrastructure and benefits that will serve the community long after the games are over."
The money is not to go toward any costs "where the primary beneficiary is a private, for-profit, or otherwise nonpublic entity." Some of the funding could be provided in the form of in-kind services like policing, transportation and health care.

colour me shocked

 

[marcus_a_j]

Is that a joke? I don't understand how anyone tobogganing could accidentally hit a tree. They would have to be aiming for it.

I've seen young kids who have hit trees because they couldn't control the sled or a bump caused the sled to change direction. They weren't aiming for the tree. Accidents happen.

 

[evandyk]

There is no denying that tobogganing can be dangerous if there are trees at the bottom of the hill. It's very easy to lose control and smash into one. If they can avoid that by dropping a few bales of hay, it's probably cheaper than defending even one lawsuit, never mind settling one.

 

[DSC]

I've seen young kids who have hit trees because they couldn't control the sled or a bump caused the sled to change direction. They weren't aiming for the tree. Accidents happen.

Yes, one needs to be careful but "Life has Risks" and one needs to remember that. As the Council motion says, put up signs saying "Be careful" but the 'nanny state' is simply a waste of time and effort.

 

[marcus_a_j]

Yes, one needs to be careful but "Life has Risks" and one needs to remember that. As the Council motion says, put up signs saying "Be careful" but the 'nanny state' is simply a waste of time and effort.

No question. I’m not advocating for the hay bales to be put up. Just saying shit happens.