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maybe the most depressing thing I have read in a while

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Residents watched as teen beaten, stabbed
No one called police because violence so common in area
Jul. 18, 2006. 05:57 PM
ROBYN DOOLITTLE AND CURTIS RUSH
STAFF REPORTERS


Several residents of a North York housing complex watched as a teenage boy was stripped down to his underwear and slowly beaten to death Friday night, but they say they didn't intervene because it didn't look that serious and violence is so common in the area.
The teen's disfigured body was found in a nearby Flemingdon Park ravine at 6:35 p.m. on Saturday. He collapsed in a wooded area behind an apartment building on Don Mills Rd., near Eglinton Ave. E.

Police have identified the teen as 17-year-old Omar Wellington.

A post-mortem examination determined the cause of death as " a multitude of stab wounds to the neck," police said on Tuesday.

Homicide investigators say they are interested in speaking with anyone who was in the area of 61 Grenoble Drive on Friday between 5 p .m. and 8 p.m., and who may have seen a fight involving several young people near the south side of this housing complex.

A mother of three, who didn't want her name used, said "they're always play fighting down there, but they play rough. I didn't think anything of it. He looked okay when I went out to see. Now I just wish I would have done something."

Police say they're unsure why residents didn't contact them when they noticed the clash, but say it may have been because they didn't think the boy was seriously injured.

"It's not really that bad of an area at all ... and we're getting a lot of help from residents," Sgt. Peter Churcher said. "(The most common problem) is kids end up getting in fights."

The woman, who lives in the complex, said a neighbour called Friday night to say a group of about 15 teenagers had stripped a boy naked and were now "beating the hell out of him."

News of the beating spread quickly as neighbours went door to door to warn each other that they should bring their children inside and lock their doors - but no one called the police.

One man, who was walking by, saw the fight and pulled out his cellphone to call 911, but several of the assailants threatened him so he put his phone away and went home.

As the woman left her apartment about 8:30 p.m., she noticed that the teen was standing alone away from the group in his underwear. He did not appear in distress.

"He looked like he was composing himself. I don't know why he didn't just run away if he wasn't okay," she said.

Churcher said the Flemingdon Park area is no more dangerous than other parts of the city and suggested that violence is often correlated with rising temperatures.

An elderly woman who refused to give her name had another theory.

"We have to live here - that's why nobody ever sees anything.... No one wants to get shot for something they weren't part of," she said. "And people may not understand that, but it's because they don't live here."

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I used to associate this kind of thing with other places - like Detroit or Newark or something. Quite frankly, I dont really know what to say in response.
 
people may not understand that

Well she's right, I certainly don't understand it. The day you can't pick up the phone and call the cops, to save someone who's being killed in front of your eyes, you've lost most of your humanity IMO.
 
^ As far as I know the perpetrators have the legal right to request the name of the person that reported them.
 
^ I doubt that very much, but I don't have anything to back that up. Any lawyers here who could address that?

Crimestoppers makes a big deal of being anonymous; could this also apply to calls to 911?
 
I really lose a bit of hope for this city when I read that sort of thing.
 
Horrible things like this have been going on, in all cultures, all over the world, for thousands of years. That's why the ancient parable of the Good Samaritan still resonates, regardless of whether or not we have religious beliefs.

Indeed, I thought that there was a Good Samaritan law that speaks to this issue and protects those who come to the aid of such people as the on mentioned in the article.
 
"Crimestoppers makes a big deal of being anonymous; could this also apply to calls to 911?"

The whole point the woman was making is that a call would not have been very anonymous...the thugs might have known who called the cops just by looking around to see who was watching them from their living room windows.
 
It was the woman's argument, not mine. I don't know which building this happened behind, but if it was behind a row of 4 townhouses, it really narrows down the list of who might have called. I can understand one person not calling, but they went around to all the neighbours to tell them about it...that's what makes no sense. They're afraid of retaliation so they choose to tell everyone in the neighbourhood but not tell the cops?
 
Maybe it's because the people hate or fear the police. I can certainly understand that.
 
Combined with fearing their neighbours, I can see why they may be reluctant to "snitch."
 
Going by the reports, the teen didn't look in mortal danger. The residents thought they were not reporting an assault, which is something they too frequently see - and not neglecting to call in a muder.
 
Well she's right, I certainly don't understand it. The day you can't pick up the phone and call the cops, to save someone who's being killed in front of your eyes, you've lost most of your humanity IMO.

And yet, whether or not we understand it, it still happened. Something made it that way. We can't just shake our heads and walk away, mumbling about lost humanity. Whatever factors are behind this response might never be morally justifiable, and yet, they exist.
 
I think what these residents are missing is empathy. Maybe this sounds naive, but if I saw a similar occurence I wouldn't hesitate to get involved by interjecting myself and/or rallying the locals, or at least I would report the incident to the police.
 
I live just up the street from where this happened. The boy was killed in the field between Flemingdon Mall and the apartments to the south.

Surely someone in the building could have made a call, but as is suggested, some thought it was just some horseplay.

To those who don't live around here, there is no way you would intervene in that kind of situation. I hate to say it, but it's heads down and keep walking like nothing happened.

I'd hesitate to call Crimestoppers even, because people remember faces and know exactly who saw what.

Like it or not, that's the reality when kids carry guns and knives and aren't afraid to use them.
 

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