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March 2011 TTC Service Cutbacks

Man, I hope you guys don't complain about Rob Ford's divisional tactics.

All I'm saying is that suburban Toronto voted overwhelmingly for Ford. They bought into simple slogans, which under closer inspection (and by closer inspection I mean a 5 second BS check) didn't hold any water at all. Now they are just beginning to see the downsides of voting for such a simplistic message.

The greatest case for Socialism is the reality of when Neo-Conservatism is actually implemented. When the simplistic ideological talking points start to negatively affect YOU, suddenly Neo-Conservatism doesn't seem so great.
 
All I'm saying is that suburban Toronto voted overwhelmingly for Ford. They bought into simple slogans, which under closer inspection (and by closer inspection I mean a 5 second BS check) didn't hold any water at all. Now they are just beginning to see the downsides of voting for such a simplistic message.

The greatest case for Socialism is the reality of when Neo-Conservatism is actually implemented. When the simplistic ideological talking points start to negatively affect YOU, suddenly Neo-Conservatism doesn't seem so great.

to be fair, the alternative wasn't better.

Pantalone= Union lover and Miller V.2
Smithersman=Mr.E-health
Rossy=Selling assets and Underground Spadina expressway to downtown....

See where I'm going with this?
 
There is a lot of moaning and groaning about the proposed service reduction, but for the most part I don't see why. A similar route near me in Richmond Hill doesn't operate much later than 8-9PM, and most times I just walk in from the main route because this route is so unreliable and poorly coordinated to transfer anyways (just miss the bus and is a 30 minute wait till the next one, or at best a 10 minute wait and a 10 minute bus ride versus a 20 minute walk). I'm not saying that the TTC should have similar service to York Region Transit, but let's be realistic here: most of these buses operate with parallel routes nearby, their ridership at these times is virtually non-existent, and their frequency is low enough that many may simply opt to walk anyways.

Yes, it may suck that some have to walk a little extra than before, but in most cases the walk is far from unbearable from parallel routes. And let's not forget how spotty our overnight service is: for example there are only three main north-south routes in Scarborough (Victoria Park/Warden, McCowan, and Nielson/Morningside). I'm willing to bet more people are inconvenienced, and face a far more daunting walk than those who may have to walk to Willowdale Ave from Yonge or Bayview.
 
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Pantalone= Union lover and Miller V.2
Smithersman=Mr.E-health
Rossy=Selling assets and Underground Spadina expressway to downtown....

See where I'm going with this?

I don't see where you are going with this.

First you need to prove that Ford will deal with unions better than Miller and that Miller was bad for transit. If Miller was a union pushover there wouldn't have been strikes. Strikes occur when unions aren't happy. Ford just guaranteed that what is probably the city's largest union no longer needs to strike to get great pay increases through arbitration and he is cutting service. The biggest costs to the city are policing and transit, and policing was already essential.

Secondly most of the e-health stuff was handled by bureaucrats. Health is a big portfolio. Some of what happened is common in the business world as unpalatable as it might be to the public. What bothers you most about e-health specifically?

Rossy, Mr.Freeway, wasn't a choice for transit. Sarah Thompson definitely was a vote for transit with that being her highest priority in her platform... who did she throw her support behind?
 
What I don't expect is ignorant and idiotic claims that everyone in the suburbs has 4-6 cars, never uses transit.......

I completely agree. Do all those people living in the hundreds of suburban-416 apartment buildings have 4-6 cars and never use transit?

I can understand the service cuts to some underperforming late-night routes including the one I am most familiar with, 167 Pharmacy north. This service cut reduces the service on this route even more than before late-night and Sunday service were added. It will now be a M-F, peak-period route only, which means in addition to the late night, sunday and holiday service added in 2008 being eliminated, Saturday and M-F service between 9am - 3 pm that has always been available as long as I can remember has also been eliminated. Granted ridership is really low outside of M-F peak periods and the route is really close to Vic. Park buses, the TTC took this opportunity to trim more 'fat' than was on their before.
 
Speaking of stagnant transit,

Major bus plan postponed by TTC staff

A plan to run buses every 10 minutes or better on some of the city's most heavily travelled routes, many of which are located in suburban areas, is being postponed due to a lack of funding, Toronto Community News has learned.

"Right now there's nothing in the 2011 budget for this (plan)," confirmed TTC Spokesperson Danny Nicholson Friday, Jan. 7. TTC staff will make a presentation on their proposed 2011 budget to the city's budget committee Friday, Jan. 14.

Nicholson said major improvements to bus service outlined in the TTC's Transit City Bus Plan (TCBP) and scheduled to start this year will not happen "for funding reasons."

Service changes that were supposed to start this year, according to the plan, include:

- phasing in the increase of bus service to 10 minutes or better on a network of 21 busy routes (see sidebar). The improvements were originally scheduled to start this past fall but were pushed back to start November, 2011 followed by a second phase in late 2012.

- expanding express bus service on Jane Street and Don Mills Road and introducing express buses on Scarborough's 116 Morningside route.

- starting to implement the final phase of the TTC's Ridership Growth Strategy, approved in 2003, by increasing the frequency of service on all other bus routes to 20 minutes or better.

The TCBP, which was supposed to be implemented completely by 2014, also calls for hiring more on-street supervisors, equipping 1,150 intersections in the city with transit signal priority, building 10 new queue jump lanes for buses at congested intersections in Scarborough and North York and constructing 19 new bus bays along the 39 Finch East route. It also envisioned expanding or adding express bus service along 15 bus routes in 2014.

TTC staff estimated the plan would require $77 million in capital costs and $39 million annually to operate. When fully implemented, it would attract 7.5 million more customer trips annually. There were 300 million TTC bus trips made in 2008, and 60 per cent of TTC customers use a bus for all or part of their trip.

The city's budget chief said postponement of the plan doesn't constitute a service cut.

"It's a plan and it's a plan that hasn't been executed, so it (the service) is not there to begin with," said Councillor Mike Del Grande (Ward 39, Scarborough-Agincourt), chair of the city's budget committee.

"At the end of the day, for everybody including the city, it's a question of affordability," Del Grande said. "So if you don't have the money to afford, you can't do certain things."

Most complaints he's received about bus service are not about frequency but bunching up of buses and short turns, he added.



Transit City Bus Network

10 minutes or better service is proposed in the TCBP for the following routes:

7 Bathurst*

22 Coxwell

24 Victoria Park*

29 Dufferin*

39 Finch East*

43 Kennedy*

44 Kipling South

46 Kipling*

52 Lawrence/58 Malton*

53 Steeles East*

54 Lawrence East*

60 Steeles West*

72 Pape

76 Royal York Road South

84 Sheppard West*

89 Weston*

94 Wellesley

95 York Mills*

96 Wilson*

102 Markham Road*

129 McCowan North

* indicates routes are also scheduled to get new or expanded express bus service in 2014

http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/cityhall/article/926756--major-bus-plan-postponed-by-ttc-staff

We knew this was already going to happen, anyways, so no big loss.
 
Per Kelly Grant, the Commission voted to defer consideration of service cuts to its next meeting in order to consider alternatives and do consultations. Really makes you wonder if councillors will have the stomach for much deeper cuts next year.
 
One of the proposed cutbacks would be with the 74 Mt. Pleasant bus.

No service after 7:00 p.m., every day.

Boy, did it ever go downhill. It used to be the east leg of the St. Clair streetcar. It even had 24-hour service from the St. Clair streetcar. When it was split into a separate Mt. Pleasant streetcar in 1975, service ran from 5 a.m. to 1 a.m., but had night service was provided by its parent St. Clair streetcar route. That lasted until 1976, when it was replaced by the 76 Mt. Pleasant trolley bus.

From 24-hour service to no service after 7:00 pm. Shows what happens when you replace streetcars with buses, as well.
 
Per Kelly Grant, the Commission voted to defer consideration of service cuts to its next meeting in order to consider alternatives and do consultations. Really makes you wonder if councillors will have the stomach for much deeper cuts next year.

Flip-flops all around. This is what you get when you rush a budget.
 
I have a copy of the ridership for these routes at night that are not nice to look at and you can see why these routes are on the chopping block. I will try to post the 3 pages of data later.

It was some meeting today with the flip flop going on.

The captial budget was past hands down with the recommendation that TTC keeps all excess renvenue like last year, received a cost of increase in funding and few other thing. There was talk about going p3 for wheel tram 100%.

Is see Steve has already beat me for posting the list. http://stevemunro.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-03-cuts-list-formatted-v1.pdf
 
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Speaking of stagnant transit,

Major bus plan postponed by TTC staff

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http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/cityhall/article/926756--major-bus-plan-postponed-by-ttc-staff

We knew this was already going to happen, anyways, so no big loss.

No big emotional loss, perhaps. However Ford's transit platform did promise "express" buses.

Unless he's planning to introduce new express services (presumably in mixed traffic, not BRT) under another name than TCBP, then that's another year without real upgrades to busy TTC routes.

"Subway is the only way to go!", indeed.

-ed d.
 
No big emotional loss, perhaps. However Ford's transit platform did promise "express" buses.

Unless he's planning to introduce new express services (presumably in mixed traffic, not BRT) under another name than TCBP, then that's another year without real upgrades to busy TTC routes.

"Subway is the only way to go!", indeed.

-ed d.

Will be interesting to see if even the TCB plan doesn't go through, if we begin to see some express bus routing under Ford. Coming from the suburbs he knows (unlike Giambonehead) that stopping at every side street doesn't help with long distance travel.
 

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