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Legalize polygamy: report

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Thu Jan 12, 4:46 PM ET

OTTAWA (CP) - A new study for the federal Justice Department says Canada should get rid of its law banning polygamy, and change other legislation to help women and children living in such multiple-spouse relationships.

"Criminalization does not address the harms associated with valid foreign polygamous marriages and plural unions, in particular the harms to women," says the report, obtained by The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act. "The report therefore recommends that this provision be repealed."

The research paper is part of a controversial $150,000 polygamy project, launched a year ago and paid for by the Justice Department and Status of Women Canada.

The paper by three law professors at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont., argues that Sec. 293 of the Criminal Code banning polygamy serves no useful purpose and in any case is rarely prosecuted.

Instead, Canadian laws should be changed to better accommodate the problems of women in polygamous marriages, providing them clearer spousal support and inheritance rights.

Currently, there's a hodgepodge of legislation across the provinces, some of whom - Ontario, for example - give limited recognition to foreign polygamous marriages for the purposes of spousal support. Some jurisdictions provide no relief at all.

Chief author Martha Bailey says criminalizing polygamy, typically a marriage involving one man and several wives, serves no good purpose and prosecutions could do damage to the women and children in such relationships.

"Why criminalize the behaviour?" she said in an interview. "We don't criminalize adultery.

"In light of the fact that we have a fairly permissive society .n.n. why are we singling out that particular form of behaviour for criminalization?"

Instead, there are other laws available to deal with problems often associated with polygamous unions, which are not legally recognized as marriages in Canada.

"If there are problems such as child abuse, or spousal abuse, there are other criminal provisions or other laws dealing with those problems that certainly should be enforced," Bailey said.

The Justice Department project was prompted in part by an RCMP investigation into the religious community of Bountiful in Creston, B.C., where polygamy is practised openly.

The British Columbia government has long been considering whether to lay charges under Section 293.

But the project was also intended to provide the Liberal government with ammunition to help defend its same-sex marriage bill last spring.

Opponents claimed the bill, now law, was a slippery slope that would open the door to polygamy and even bestiality.

Another report for the project, also led by two Queen's University professors, dismisses the slippery-slope argument, saying that allowing same-sex marriages promotes equality while polygamous marriages are generally harmful to women's interests and would therefore promote inequality.

Liberal Justice Minister Irwin Cotler said he has seen only a summary of the research reports, but already rejects lifting the criminal ban on polygamy.

"At this point, the practice of polygamy, bigamy and incest are criminal offences in Canada and will continue to be," he said from Montreal.

"These reports will become part of the knowledge base on this issue and will be taken into account."

The Bailey report, consistent with other research for the project, also concludes the courts might well rule that Canada's law banning polygamy is a violation of Canada's constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion.

But Section 293 would survive such a challenge because the harm to women and children in many polygamous marriages is well documented - abuse, poverty, coercion, health problems - and the limit to religious freedom would be considered "reasonable," as allowed under Section 1 of the charter.

Although the Bountiful case raises immediate issues, Canada is also faced with a rising tide of immigration from Africa and the Middle East, where polygamy is legally and religiously sanctioned. Immigration officers can refuse entry to individuals practising polygamy.

Bailey said Canada should nevertheless offer some recognition to polygamous marriages that are legally valid in foreign countries to help protect women's rights here.

Another paper for the project, by the Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre, urges British Columbia to proceed immediately with a prosecution in Bountiful.

"Based on the harms associated with polygamy as it is practised in Bountiful, there do not appear to be any alternatives to prosecution, however difficult it may be."


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Well then...I mean, it's not like I was ever going to get married anyway, so I can't say I really care about this.
 
cool! does this mean i can finally have my harem?
 
My problem is finding one girl that will stick around, never mind two or three. If anything, polygamous marriages work against schmucks like me. In a society that has or will have polygamous marriages, gay marriages, legal swingers clubs, lesbian chic and everything else, I still got nothing Jerry, nothing!

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Just imagine all the nagging those men have to deal with. Is it worth it for a little variety in the bedroom?
 
Why is it that no one mentioned polygamy in the opposite sense - a woman having multiple number of husbands?

Food for thought.

AoD
 
Why is it that no one mentioned polygamy in the opposite sense - a woman having multiple number of husbands?

'cause that would suck. :lol
 
Tsk tsk, I am sure some women might not think of it that way. Some men may have to get used to the idea of sharing however.

AoD
 
"Why is it that no one mentioned polygamy in the opposite sense - a woman having multiple number of husbands?"

How many women want to be pregnant that often?
 
There actually is a culture or two on earth where polyandry is practiced, but polygamy is obviously much, much more common. I imagine this is why polygamy is generally used to refer to polygyny (multiple wives). Polygamy just means a union of n wives and m husbands for n, m non-negative integers.
 
Given same sex marriage, things could get kind of complicated. Canada, ca. 2023:

Husband: I hate going to Barbara's for Christmas, I never know who anyone is.
Wife: It's not that hard, just have an open mind.
Husband: Who's Jane again?
Wife: Please get it straight this year. Barbara is married to Stephen, Phillip and Jane. Stephen is also married to Josh. Josh used to be married to Alice and Dahlia, but they got divorced in November, remember?
Husband: So, all Josh, Alice and Dahlia are all divorced then?
Wife: No, Alice and Dahlia still are together, and they're engaged to Jane, the ceremony is next month.
Husband: So Josh won't be around?
Wife: No, Josh got married to Bill and Peter, but Peter's still with Eden, Alice's second wife, so he's invited, too.
Husband: What about that strange Norman guy? Is he gonna be there.
Wife: No, Norman's with a goat now. He's not invited.
 
There must be small army of lawyers looking forward to this. Pre-nup and estate settlements alone will require platoon to deal with the complexity.
 
Since we are allowing Same-Sex marriage I guess Canada will have to allow polygamy sooner or latter.

I myself do not agree with polygamy.

I can see allowing Same-Sex marriage, because you are allowing two people who love each other to get married, just like two straight people getting married.

But polygamy I don't know. If people want to do it I guess it is fine. But if you need more then one partner then don't get married in the first place. Just do the single thing and date around.

I never did get the whole polygamy or open relationship thing. You either are in love with someone or not. Men have to really learn how to control their private part. Because thats the whole reason we have stuff like polygamy.
 

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