W. K. Lis
Superstar
Why must left turns (from Spadina) be first? In other jurisdictions, they place the left turn signal at the end of the cycle.
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Why not just ban left turn at this location, if it's causing that much of a problem. Can't they go left on Wellington, and do two rights to come the other way on King?
The real problem with King (and most other traffic changes) is that there is no answer that is going to improve things for EVERYONE. The City are tweaking things to see if the benefits can be enhanced or maintained without making things worse for another group but the main purpose of the project was to speed up transit and in that it has certainly succeeded.
Killin' myself with this:
I am sure some people have but it is very hard to know how long subway delays will last so getting of Line 2 at Broadview and taking 504 (or 505) would really be a gamble. Of course, extending transit priority to whole route would speed it up - that's what transit priority does!Have anyone used the 504 as an alternative route to get downtown when the Line 1 had its troubles lately?
Would extending the transit priority all along the 504 help or hinder?
Even if it costs $5M!I am sure some people have but it is very hard to know how long subway delays will last so getting of Line 2 at Broadview and taking 504 (or 505) would really be a gamble. Of course, extending transit priority to whole route would speed it up - that's what transit priority does!
The (rhetorical) question was "would it be faster?" NOT Would it be worth doing.Even if it costs $5M!
It's not a turn I usually make. Living near Coxwell, I tend to simply drive down Richmond, and park the car the first spot I see ... normally around Portland (actually I tend to use transit ... but if I need the car).Vehicles cannot turn left from Spadina northbound to Wellington westbound because of the streetcar right of way median - the only left turn options in the area, other than King Street, would be at the Front Street intersection, or all the way up at Queen Street. There is not left turn allowed at Richmond Street either.
I really don't here drivers's complaining that much, other than just in principle. It's not like gridlock has magically appeared elsewhere.The real problem with King (and most other traffic changes) is that there is no answer that is going to improve things for EVERYONE. The City are tweaking things to see if the benefits can be enhanced or maintained without making things worse for another group but the main purpose of the project was to speed up transit and in that it has certainly succeeded.
I'm surprised it took that long. When did Councillor David Miller first propose it, and the city seriously started studying? Wasn't it in 2001?And it's legal. Apparently City Council began clearing the way for the King Street Pilot back in 2016.
Steve, I have to wonder which part of India you were in! In my experience, modern in India meant that everyone was inside the passenger car in all classes, instead of hanging out the doors and on-top!...and India ...|
And every one of those nations has a more efficient, modern passenger rail system than Canada.
Here's what I posted in the VIA string on tilting trains, as to how it ended-up in the King Street Pilot string, and completely misconstrued at that, boggles the bogie:Steve, I have to wonder which part of India you were in! In my experience, modern in India meant that everyone was inside the passenger car in all classes, instead of hanging out the doors and on-top!
For modern efficiency, you went to the airport and flew Jet Airways (gosh I always meant to invest in them a few years ago, but never went about it. I wonder how they've done).
My reference of "every one" was to the closest plural subject: "Eleven nations of Europe". And the claim is true. To bring that back to Toronto, Toronto is also a severe laggard when it comes to city transit, even by the standards of other Cdn cities....and India, and Sweden, and Czech Republic, and Norway, etc, etc...
Eleven nations in Europe alone use the Pendolino. And every one of those nations has a more efficient, modern passenger rail system than Canada.