evandyk
Senior Member
Good development. The few remaining people made it clear last week that they had no intention of ever accepting the housing the city was offering them, so there wasn't really any other option left.
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How to solve homeless issue?
- Thread starter Admiral Beez
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evandyk
Senior Member
Really smart of them, of course, to wait until October to do it instead of May.
PurplePinky
Active Member
City clears encampment from Toronto park after residents demanded permanent housing
The City of Toronto has cleared a homeless encampment at Dufferin Grove Park after a small group of remaining residents said they wouldn’t leave until they got permanent housing. City vehicles were seen removing tents and people’s belongings from the park this morning, with city security and...
toronto.citynews.ca
Towered
Superstar
Exactly - right on time for the park not to be useful anymore for the next 8 months
Admiral Beez
Superstar
I don’t usually refer to US-owned media’s take on Canadian issues, but this article in the NP is interesting.A pretty even handed look by the Globe, from someone who’s obviously on the same neighbourhood listserv as I am.
In Dufferin Grove, a big tent of compassion for homeless encampments begins to fray
Even self-professed progressives are losing patience in this Toronto park – and the debate about housing and compassion is not uniquewww.theglobeandmail.com
And on twitter, Dan Seljak makes the good point that if there’s a bunch of bylaw officers just standing around in the park anyways, they should ticket the lawless riffraff who let their dogs run around off leash constantly in the park.
'Don't go downtown!' Inside Canada's small-town homeless catastrophe
Menace, addiction and human despair have overwhelmed Canada's small towns and cities. Some say it's getting worse. Some just want to leave.
nationalpost.com
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Some ideas here.
www.thestar.com
Paywall free: https://archive.is/hZyZJ
Can we fix Toronto’s homelessness crisis? This is what it could cost to build a home for every person living in our parks and streets
More than 1,600 people are living outdoors, many in encampments. The Star crunched the numbers and this is what it could take to build a home for every one of them.
www.thestar.com
SubHuman
Active Member
Former mayor John Sewell yesterday in radio interview --
(Go to about 19:16 into this) https://www.iheart.com/podcast/962-...or-montagliani-fifa-vice-president-320023365/
"People in Toronto feel uneasy right now because of the number of homeless people that are everywhere. They're on the public transit, which makes you, sort of, you know ..." (He avoided finishing the sentence). " ... we gotta start providing a lot more housing."
Many are justifiably afraid to use public transit because of individuals who are having psychotic delusions. How did "homeless" somehow become the inaccurate and misleading euphemism for this? "Homeless" is largely irrelevant in these instances, and at best a misdiagnosis of their main issue that makes them problematic to themselves and the rest of us.
Politicians, misguided activist types and others use this euphemism to misdirect any discussion, and disingenuously pretend it's about poverty ("We need more affordable housing", etc.), instead of being about severe brain disorders that make the unfortunate victims unpredictably dangerous to themselves and sometimes others.
"More housing" does not cure severe brain disorders.
Admittedly it's a difficult topic to discuss, and there are no easy answers, but ignoring it and disingenuously pretending it doesn't exist, or is something else, is not helping anyone.
(Go to about 19:16 into this) https://www.iheart.com/podcast/962-...or-montagliani-fifa-vice-president-320023365/
"People in Toronto feel uneasy right now because of the number of homeless people that are everywhere. They're on the public transit, which makes you, sort of, you know ..." (He avoided finishing the sentence). " ... we gotta start providing a lot more housing."
Many are justifiably afraid to use public transit because of individuals who are having psychotic delusions. How did "homeless" somehow become the inaccurate and misleading euphemism for this? "Homeless" is largely irrelevant in these instances, and at best a misdiagnosis of their main issue that makes them problematic to themselves and the rest of us.
Politicians, misguided activist types and others use this euphemism to misdirect any discussion, and disingenuously pretend it's about poverty ("We need more affordable housing", etc.), instead of being about severe brain disorders that make the unfortunate victims unpredictably dangerous to themselves and sometimes others.
"More housing" does not cure severe brain disorders.
Admittedly it's a difficult topic to discuss, and there are no easy answers, but ignoring it and disingenuously pretending it doesn't exist, or is something else, is not helping anyone.
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jmi22
Active Member
Haven't been by as of late, does anyone know what the situation at Dufferin Grove is? Have the encampments returned or has enforcement been steady since the removals in the fall.
evandyk
Senior Member
Nobody has been camping in Dufferin Grove since they cleared it out.
Towered
Superstar
Did the city do a proper clean up?
evandyk
Senior Member
Hard to say. It's been mostly covered in snow since December. The section where the encampment was has been fenced off since that time. I haven't been by recently to see if the fence has been taken down, but I doubt it.
Northern Light
Superstar
The Slaight family has donated 25M to combat homelessness with a mixed research/coordination/intervention service to be run by Unity Health (St. Mikes) and the United Way with partner agencies.
www.thestar.com
From the above:
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‘Transformational.’ Wealthy donor announces $25 million for a lab to fight Toronto homelessness
On Tuesday morning, the Slaight Family Foundation is set to announce the huge donation to the United Way and St. Michael’s Hospital’s MAP Centre for Urban Health Solutions.
www.thestar.com
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
I was pleasantly surprised to see the encampment and piles of rubbish cleared from behind the Serbian church on River St. as it turns down to Bayview. That’s been there for at least a year.City clears encampment from Toronto park after residents demanded permanent housing
The City of Toronto has cleared a homeless encampment at Dufferin Grove Park after a small group of remaining residents said they wouldn’t leave until they got permanent housing. City vehicles were seen removing tents and people’s belongings from the park this morning, with city security and...
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
Indeed. I’d like to know how many of the city’s NCR killings are perpetrated by homeless folks.
MANDEL: Another stranger killer deemed not criminally responsible
Dylan Sherief, 32, joins a frighteningly long list of killers recently found NCR.
torontosun.com
Napalm Frog
Active Member
They must be doing a cleaning blitz, our local mess was cleaned last week. We had a new homeless person reside next to our building this winter, who made a huuuuge mess (vs the one previous winters who was much cleaner and sociable). This was right at the corner of Elm and Simcoe next to the hasty Market, so saw a lot of traffic including elderly people parking on Simcoe and going to the hospital, having to make detours around both this mess and the snowbanks. I miss the old guy.