softstyll
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In 20 years, can an area of the City developed so aggressively actually be a nice place to live?
In 20 years, can an area of the City developed so aggressively actually be a nice place to live?
In 20 years, can an area of the City developed so aggressively actually be a nice place to live?
It'll be NYCC all over again.
If the Golden Mile is going to be this dense, in 30 years, we'll be bemoaning why we didn't grade separate the LRT here either.
This I'm inclined to agree with..........the Transportation studies envision a number of improvements, but almost all modelling suggests transit capacity will be pinched in the area at/near build-out.
Hm I haven't seen that. Where was this reported? N/S routes it's a given, they're packed today and will be in the future. But Crosstown I thought would be fine for 40+yrs.
I think it was the right decision. The area and the area where a extension would travel will likely always be surrounded by industrial or single family homes off the main Street. Regardless of what people want to say, elevated rail does not create a very walkable urban environment.If the Golden Mile is going to be this dense, in 30 years, we'll be bemoaning why we didn't grade separate the LRT here either.
Well.........yes/no/maybe.
LOL
Here's a link looking back at the modelling that led to the Transportation Master Plan:
Volume to Capacity graphics start at page 165.
All show some portion of Eglinton in Red (meaning over capacity).
That is based on 2-car sets and 5-minute headway.
So that need can be met, in whole or in part by going to 3 cars, or tighter headways.
The underground stations are built for the 3-car version; I don't believe the outdoor section is set-up for that currently.
Aside from alterations; additional vehicles would have to be ordered.
But there is a further challenge in that the surface section is not proposed for ATC operation and the modelling that supports 3-car alignments on tighter headways in the core section may not support the extension of that service to the line's periphery.
But it might.....
Text from the report: (p. 171)
An analysis was conducted on the Preferred TMP scenario factoring in the growth along the Eglinton Avenue corridor beyond the study area including the Don Mills Crossing (DMC) Secondary Plan. When combining the growth in ridership anticipated by these two (2) studies, it is notable that the current plans for two (2)-car LRT trainsets operating at five (5) minute headways may not be sufficient with the full build out of these areas. It may be necessary to plan for service of up to three (3) minute headways and/or longer three (3)-car LRT trainsets.
As seen in Figure 9-12, the combination of both the GMSP Preferred Land Use Solution plus the Don Mills Crossing (DMC) Secondary Plan recommendations will result in ridership exceeding the capacity of the ECLRT at two (2)-car trainsets at five (5) minute headways. A sensitivity test conducted as part of the DMC study included the effect of the Relief Line North (RLN) project which connects a new subway line to the ECLRT. The addition of this project results in an overall increase to ECLRT ridership.
Given these potential constraints on ECLRT capacity, north-south transit priority improvements would be beneficial additions to the transit network to provide additional mobility choice.
As long as its underground section? I thought such low headways were going to be a problem with traffic signals on above ground portion, leading to bunching.Ok neat. But not doom and gloom. Eventually transitioning to 2.5-3min is relatively easy to do, still using the 2-car setup. And effectively part of the plan for the LRT lines.
Lol, Eglinton should have been a subway from Kennedy to the Airport. Toronto Rockets and everything.I think it was the right decision. The area and the area where a extension would travel will likely always be surrounded by industrial or single family homes off the main Street. Regardless of what people want to say, elevated rail does not create a very walkable urban environment.
And, frankly, an express line (tunneled or not).Lol, Eglinton should have been a subway from Kennedy to the Airport. Toronto Rockets and everything.
The moment you build it, you rezone the entirety of Eglinton for high density.
Lol, Eglinton should have been a subway from Kennedy to the Airport. Toronto Rockets and everything.
The moment you build it, you rezone the entirety of Eglinton for high density.
My point was not that we should be doom-and-gloom about the redevelopment of the area, but pointing out that we'll have the NYCC pattern of suburbia one block behind the glass/concrete streetwall.