EnviroTO
Senior Member
The route for the Peterborough line uses the CP tracks from Peterborough to Leaside and the GO Don Branch to Union. There is a separate thread for that and you can Google Shining Waters Railway for more details.
I'd be nice to see GO use Allandale as a regional hub for simcoe country, such as traveling to the ski resorts or just improving bus service in barrie.
How cool would that be, a ski train here in Ontario? I know the tracks don't run that deep into Collingwood on the BCRY as ShonTron noted...but in an ideal train-dreamer world, GO service could extend to Collingwood on winter weekends, as the Lakeshore West service extends to Niagara in the summer. Just a pipedream, I know...
passenger rail to Peterborough - such a good idea! but how do you get it to union in toronto? last time i google mapped the train line from Pbo to To it goes on the track that goes between dupont and davenport. also what other stops would you add to make it profitable?
The question should be "what will it take to get the line to the point where the losses are easy to subsidize?"
The tipping point probably is: gasoline hitting $2/litre
At which point such luxuries such as weekend ski trips and cottages are likely to only be reachable by those who can still afford to drive with $2/litre gas.
How cool would that be, a ski train here in Ontario? I know the tracks don't run that deep into Collingwood on the BCRY as ShonTron noted...but in an ideal train-dreamer world, GO service could extend to Collingwood on winter weekends, as the Lakeshore West service extends to Niagara in the summer. Just a pipedream, I know...
Ugh. We are already pushing the limits of a commuter rail network with Barrie(Allendale), it's a 1 hr train ride!!!!!
It's 1 hour 43 minutes, almost as long as the commute to Kitchener! This is an insanely long commute, GO is basically becoming like VIA on these routes. I would not be surprised if a large fraction of the customers on this route are not daily commuters, but rather intercity travellers who might take the bus back the other direction.
Update on the GO train to Guelph/Kitchener. I had a nice discussion with the VIA attendant (who doubles as a GO ticket counter for now) is what kinda numbers they are getting on the GO train. They did mention they bring in about $2000 a day. My rough estimate using the current 10 ride ticket fare, it would be an average of about 185 people.
They also mentioned that, with the Government tight on money, that the future expansion of this GO service is being carefully looked at based on the ridership numbers. Basdically a 'wait and see' approach until money becomes available.
Update on ridership numbers for KW/Guelph: http://swo.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/...region-ridership-120206/20120206/?hub=SWOHome
150/day. OM Freaking G.
I think that's just betwen Kitchener and Guelph stations: it's expected to rise.
That line itself has a daily ridership of over 15,000.
From Waterloo Region. Therefore it doesn't include people who board in Guelph heading to Toronto.No...I think that is the number of people using it daily from those stations to Toronto....this is the quote "On average, 150 people take the new weekday round-trip train service into Toronto"
From Waterloo Region. Therefore it doesn't include people who board in Guelph heading to Toronto.
Therefore, that's just the traffic between Kitchener and Guelph.