Krypto98
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I get off at bramalea because I'm not crazy enough to take a GO train all the way to London. It just happened to be that I was on the same train.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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anb
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Makes you wonder if they should just extend the route 15 that already heads in this direction from Brantford. Or create a Kitchener-London express bus the exact same way the route 30 is set up. Both options would probably work out for the better especially the 15 as its McMaster stop could help the university-university travel and the Aldershot connection obviously being a better one compared to starting at Kitchener.
Krypto98
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Allandale25
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I thought that's why they were putting two F59s on the Union-London trips? In case one had a failure. Wasn't that discussed here as well? cc @smallspy
Bordercollie
Senior Member
It could be a non power issue.
smallspy
Senior Member
While that is supposed to be the case....
It was the lead unit here that was the problem. It would not load, and it would not cede control. In the end, they had to couple another train up to this trainset and drag it back to Willowbrook for repairs.
Dan
Bordercollie
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Could they have uncoupled the lead unit and have the train depart with one locomotive? Then haul the broken locomotive back to Willowbrook?
beatle04
Active Member
From what other users have said, the reason the train has 2 locomotives is in case one fails on the stretch between Kitchener and London. Because that stretch of track is so far away for GO's network, getting buses out there would take way too long.
If they departed with one loco, there is technically the risk of that loco failing...and now you have a stranded train. The odds of two loco's failing on the same train on the same day are obviously very unlikely...but it's a PR (and possible Via/CN/CP scheduling) disaster.
robmausser
Senior Member
Do they use both locos as motive power? It would probably be moot but at the very least less time would be wasted accelerating on what is already a slow track.
beatle04
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From what I understand, only one is used.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Question 1: How do you get an immobile lead unit out of the way so that the rest of your train can depart?
Question 2: Is there a cab car behind your lead unit or what else is going to head your train?
That would be the same as with VIA's Churchill service and having once witnessed one single F40 haul an entire Ocean summer consist from Campbellton to Montreal (after setting off an uncooperative loco), I can appreciate how overpowered a five-to-seven-car consist would be with two F40s on-line...
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crs1026
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^Both units will be running, because the startup/warmup process is best not attempted in the heat of the moment.
Whether both units are providing traction, as opposed to running one and leaving the other at idle, I don’t know. But it’s a bit moot because there won’t be all that much throttle usage to keep the train moving west of Kitchener.
- Paul
Whether both units are providing traction, as opposed to running one and leaving the other at idle, I don’t know. But it’s a bit moot because there won’t be all that much throttle usage to keep the train moving west of Kitchener.
- Paul
Krypto98
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It was the cab car that was having issues not the locomotives
smallspy
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In theory, yes. But the crew tried a number of different things and none of it was sucessful.
I also don't know if GO allows the crews to handle the MU and HEP connections. They may require a carman to do that, which is a mechanic position rather than a running trade.
No, it wasn't. As I wrote earlier, it was the leading locomotive.
Dan
Krypto98
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Ohh i must have gotten confused, wasn't the issue caused by a cable problem (in really simple terms)?