GO Transit: Construction Projects (Metrolinx, various)

[Bojaxs]

Can someone remind me why we are using unique rolling stock for the Ontario line? Where the original tunnels dug under Queen not big enough for LRT cars?

David Miller? Is that you?

 

[T3G]

Because to manage the headways, expected traffic, and to hit the steep grade the right rolling stock was needed.

LRTs are simply ill suited for all of the above.

Huh? How exactly would an LRT car have problems with headways or grades?

No, they chose not to go with LRT because it wouldn't provide an appropriate level of capacity, that is all.

 

[smallspy]

Can someone remind me why we are using unique rolling stock for the Ontario line? Where the original tunnels dug under Queen not big enough for LRT cars?

Because marketing wank.

Because to manage the headways, expected traffic, and to hit the steep grade the right rolling stock was needed.

LRTs are simply ill suited for all of the above.

LRTs are not well suited for the line for a variety of reasons, that much is true. Gradeability is not one of those reasons, but that's neither here nor there.

But subways are well suited for this line. And as it turns out, we already have a standard design here in Toronto. Which we did not use.

Dan

 

[Bordercollie]

11p

Because marketing wank.


LRTs are not well suited for the line for a variety of reasons, that much is true. Gradeability is not one of those reasons, but that's neither here nor there.

But subways are well suited for this line. And as it turns out, we already have a standard design here in Toronto. Which we did not use.

Dan

Using standard subways would allow interlining and consolidation of rolling stock.

 

[chrisw]

Another quote from the press conference.

'Construction market' makes timelines for Kitchener GO expansion unclear: Metrolinx CEO

People in Waterloo Region welcomed the news of expanded GO Train service on Thursday, but early signs indicate that weekday commuters could have a longer wait for two-way, all-day trains. The Ontario government and Metrolinx announced the purchase of CN Rail land, with aims to build 40km of...

kitchener.citynews.ca

“The construction market in North America, and indeed around the world, is in a time of volatility,” said Lindsay. “Great supply chain discontinuity, skilled trades are almost fully used across this region which is great because it means there’s lots of work to be done, but I promise you I’m not trying to be cagey when I say we need to ultimately get to market and talk to the designers of things like a 40km twin track project and the people who are going to construct it to ultimately understand what technically is possible.”

 

[Thaboss]

Because marketing wank.


LRTs are not well suited for the line for a variety of reasons, that much is true. Gradeability is not one of those reasons, but that's neither here nor there.

But subways are well suited for this line. And as it turns out, we already have a standard design here in Toronto. Which we did not use.

Dan

My understanding was that steep grades and tight turns near science center station (or whatever we're calling it now) necessitated smaller and lighter trains than is currently in use on lines 1 & 2, is that not true ?

 

[urbancog]

The piers are in place for the 3rd reack over the credit river on the north side that was done when the 2nd track was added almost 2 decades ago. to put in the 4th track on the south side wiil require an extension to the piers that is long over due..

CN (or their predecessor Grand Trunk) constructed the original Credit bridge with one track. The Province paid to expand the bridge to accommodate 2 more tracks and implement 1 additional track. Therefore the Province should get exclusive access to 2 of the 3 tracks on the built-out bridge and CN can pay to add a 4th if it requires it.

 

[canarob]

At West Highland Creek on the Stouffville Line, there's equipment being set up and new materials (those white "bails" they put in the water, I think?). Could this be the start of the great crossing?

 

[cplchanb]

At West Highland Creek on the Stouffville Line, there's equipment being set up and new materials (those white "bails" they put in the water, I think?). Could this be the start of the great crossing?

if it is about damn time....

 

[Sauga89]

Metrolinx announced that early works on the Galloway Road grade separation will begin next month. Major construction is scheduled to begin in Fall 2026, and Galloway Rd will close in 2027.

 

[innsertnamehere]

I thought those Scarborough grade separations had quietly died? Surprised to see them back alive again.

 

[Voltz]

When is Morningside happening?

 

[dowlingm]

I thought those Scarborough grade separations had quietly died? Surprised to see them back alive again.

The one killed in Verster’s time was a rail-rail separation at Scarborough Junction.

Galloway is a 3 track crossing whereas Poplar and Morningside are two track so presumably Galloway is higher risk score. Probably want get that finished before doing another close by one, and Golf Club Rd (west of Guildwood station) is also pending and has 3 tracks

 

[Aplus23]

So grade separations leads to faster times and more frequency and so forth n so forth correct? This is why we are doing this correct?

 

[Aplus23]

The one killed in Verster’s time was a rail-rail separation at Scarborough Junction.

Galloway is a 3 track crossing whereas Poplar and Morningside are two track so presumably Galloway is higher risk score. Probably want get that finished before doing another close by one, and Golf Club Rd (west of Guildwood station) is also pending and has 3 tracks

How come they all don't have 3 tracks ?