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Globe: Gustav revives question: New Orleans worth it?

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Gustav revives question: New Orleans worth it?

LARA JAKES JORDAN

Associated Press

September 2, 2008 at 9:24 AM EDT

WASHINGTON — Those who love New Orleans say Hurricane Gustav is proof that the billions of dollars spent to protect the city and bring it back to life after the devastating 2005 storm season was worth it.

But what if Gustav had been stronger, a category 4 instead of a 2, and hit the city directly instead of 70 miles to the west? Would it be worth the cost to rebuild New Orleans again if the storm caused widespread destruction as Katrina did?

“That's a question that was there before and after (Hurricane) Katrina, and I think is going to come to the forefront again,†said Don Powell, who oversaw the Bush administration's effort to rebuild the Gulf Coast in 2005.

“There's a lot of reasons to continue,†Mr. Powell said Monday, his voice trailing off. “That's a debate we will continue to have.â€

Despite fizzling out shortly after it made landfall Monday, Gustav spurred the government into action, probably costing millions of dollars, and put a nation angered by the bungled response to Katrina three years ago back on alert.

Since Katrina ripped through New Orleans three years ago, the federal government has devoted at least $133 billion in emergency funds and tax credits for Gulf Coast disaster relief. Much of it went to rebuilding and better protecting New Orleans from future storms. How much more will be needed after Gustav — or Hurricane Hanna, as that storm creeps up Florida's eastern coast — is unclear.

Former GOP House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., infuriated Louisiana lawmakers when he suggested in 2005 that a lot of New Orleans “could be bulldozed†after Katrina and questioned the wisdom of rebuilding it. More dispassionate observers note that no matter how much is spent, New Orleans will continue to swallow federal dollars with each gulp of the Gulf or Lake Pontchartrain.

“New Orleans didn't rise up in the ground from where they were before,†Harvey E. Johnson, deputy director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said shortly before Gustav's landfall. “They're still below sea level. So you're still going to get water inside of New Orleans. And they know that.â€

A study last month by the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank, concluded that 72 per cent of the city's households that fled Katrina returned to New Orleans, as did 90 per cent of its sales tax revenues. However, as many as 65,000 blighted properties or empty lots still mar the city, and house rents are up 46 per cent.

To die-hard residents and other devotees of the Big Easy, the money poured into the Gulf Coast to continue oil production, preserve local culture and, most importantly, strengthen levees showed that New Orleans could withstand another battering by Mother Nature.

“This will actually be good news, because this makes clear that the historic city can be protected,†said Walter Isaacson, former vice chairman of the Louisiana Recovery Authority during the administration of ex-Gov. Kathleen Blanco. “New Orleans rebuilt itself because people love the place, and we're all heartened that the new levee system seems strong, and the city seems safe.

“The worst has passed.â€

Some observers aren't so sure.

“It's a soup bowl and it's not safe,†said Beverly Cigler, a public policy professor at Penn State University, referring to the city's cup-shaped geography.

Local political eagerness to develop property in New Orleans instead of protecting wetlands, which serve as a natural storm buffer, has hampered safety, said Ms. Cigler, co-chair of a Katrina task force set up by the American Society for Public Administration. Levees, meanwhile, are still three years away from being fully strengthened. And since there are differing levels of elevation throughout the city, “some places are safer than others.â€

“My own personal opinion is that you shouldn't rebuild in areas unless you can make them safe,†she said. “And nobody's had the willingness to confront these kinds of issues.â€

Yet abandoning New Orleans hardly seems an option either.

The Gulf Coast is home to nearly half the nation's refining capacity, 25 per cent of offshore domestic oil production and 15 per cent of natural gas output. Tens of thousands of construction workers, hoteliers, nurses and other service employees who flocked to New Orleans in Katrina's aftermath have helped keep local unemployment low. Not to mention that giving up would, essentially, mean spending all those billions of dollars for naught.

“It's clear that a lot of the money was spent well — even if it's far too early to declare victory,†said Don Kettl, University of Pennsylvania public policy professor and co-editor of “On Risk and Disaster: Lessons From Hurricane Katrina.â€

“If you walk away, you are condemning the city to tremendous suffering,†Mr. Kettl said. “As serious as the suffering was the last time, it didn't competely destroy the city. The real challenge is deciding what kind of city you want.â€
 
And what happens if Ike hits? The path right now puts it in the Gulf area by this time next week. Obviously this far away it's hard to say where it will make landfall, but its projected to go straight through Cuba. Beyond that, if it hits the Loop Current its just a matter of when it makes its turn north that will determine if we have to answer this question sooner rather than later.
 
If another storm like Katrina comes and hits NO from the west instead of the east, then the city is lost.
 
Damn straight it's worth it. Such a North American mentality. It's moderately difficult to protect it, so we may as well just abandon one of the continent's most culturally unique cities. Do people talk about abandoning Venice? No, and it's much harder to keep up than building decent levees to protect New Orleans from a few hurricanes.
 
I agree. Some particularly difficult areas to protect should probably have their zoning rethought, but abandoning New Orleans just doesn't make sense. How do you compensate people for permanently abandoning their homes and businesses? It would make the public works projects, like moving the towns along Highway 2 west of Cornwall look insignificant. And consider that this is the one really unique city in the deep south, the sin city surrounded by the Bible Belt, not to mention the culture, the architecture, the history.

There's a part of me that wonders if there would be so much talk about this already if New Orleans wasn't such a "chocolate city".
 
and it's much harder to keep up than building decent levees to protect New Orleans from a few hurricanes.


The Levees to protect against a Cat 5 would completely destroy the whole ecosystem there.

The marshes protect NO, however the levees are destroying the marshes.

Then, NO gets bigger storm surges and imo it would need a 40 foot levy then.
 
This decision may eventually be resolved indirectly by insurance companies. Already many frequently flooded or damaged areas are almost impossible to insure. Each disastrous storm will render more areas uninsurable. Without insurance, homeowners will need to foot the bills for rebuilding themselves; as New Orleans is hardly a hotbed of great wealth, more and more areas will likely be simply abandoned in the future, deemed too risky to build on.

That said, the damage varies drastically from area to area. It's not a matter of abandoning the entire city, just the most damage-prone areas. The tourist area in the 9th Ward is economically worth saving as it generates so much income, so it will be kept; regardless, I believe it is on higher ground and not at great risk anyway.
 
I was thinking about the costs of insurance, too - although that means EVERYONE is indirectly paying for Katrina and Gustav through our rates.
Look at all the beach homes in the Carolinas that get washed away every few years, or the earthquake zones in California. There are a lot of places we should not be living in but population pressures are placing demands on 'desirable' areas.

Lordmandeep is, indeed, correct.
 
The population had rebounded quite a bit after Katrina, but I suspect additional people will leave after Gustav...people may rebuild their burnt Malibu homes year after year but New Orleans ain't Malibu. The New Orleans area (and especially New Orleans itself) hasn't been growing too quickly, so they could definitely get away with turning the most damaged, lowest lying sectors of town back into marshy flood plains. I doubt the decision to abandon entire neighbourhoods will be made by insurance companies since there will *always* be a few people who want to return and rebuild...I think they'd have to be stopped by governments.
 
Imo the areas apart from downtown NO and just across downtown NO or the older areas of the city should be saved.

The rest will be flooded by a cat 4-5 storm.


Actually I think Gustav hit NO, i Think there would have been flooding as the levees barely held this time.
 
Am I the only person who was surprised that the levees haven't all been repaired by now?
They've had THREE YEARS. It's not like they aren't expecting a hurricane again. This is the U.S., not Pakistan.
 
Am I the only person who was surprised that the levees haven't all been repaired by now?
They've had THREE YEARS. It's not like they aren't expecting a hurricane again. This is the U.S., not Pakistan.

surprised? this is 2008 america we are talking about. i'd be surprised if they did rebuild them all by now.
 
Am I the only person who was surprised that the levees haven't all been repaired by now?
They've had THREE YEARS. It's not like they aren't expecting a hurricane again. This is the U.S., not Pakistan.

How on earth can you be surprised? New Orleans has been repeatedly battered by hurricanes and floods and it has never been adequately protected. Keep in mind that some of the post-Katrina levee projects you're talking about are actually post-Betsy projects that are not yet finished, 43 years later...
 
I was thinking about the costs of insurance, too - although that means EVERYONE is indirectly paying for Katrina and Gustav through our rates.
Look at all the beach homes in the Carolinas that get washed away every few years, or the earthquake zones in California. There are a lot of places we should not be living in but population pressures are placing demands on 'desirable' areas.

Maybe to an extent... but the area you live in does have a huge impact on your insurance rates. For example, years ago when I was driving and I moved from the 905 to downtown, my insurance rates on my car nearly doubled overnight simply because driving downtown is statistically more dangerous. The same applies to home insurance: rates are far higher for homes that are deemed likely to flood by virtue of being below sea level, near a levy, on a flood plain, in a hurricane-prone area, etc.

Beach Homes may be owned by people who can afford to rebuild, or afford drastically higher insurance rates. New Orleans doesn't really fit that demographic.
 

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