Just wanted to say a few words to share my personal experience on this Fontana project with fellow urbantoronto members. Me and my wife actually purchased a unit through my agent during the VIP presale period. Went to sign the deal 3 weeks ago at their sales center. Originally I would like to see more information on this project other than just a drawing of the building, but the experience was very disappointing. The sales office was basically empty!! The only info that I got was that the developer is very famous in Taiwan. (they call him "Taiwan Lee Ka Sing", but they are unwilling to disclose his true identity!), and that they will use all the high end material, e.g. highest grade laminate (same one as the one they have at sales center, which to me doesn't look high end at all). They also mention that there will be a 2 level lobby that looks like Circa (they always use circa as comparison and say that they will do something BETTER than Tridel). What makes us think its a joke is, when we are doing the paper work we just notice that there's not even a floor plan of our unit available!!!
They ask us to wait for a week for the floor plan and now its the 3rd week, there's still no floor plan available. We decided to cancel the deal because we absolutely don't feel comfortable purchasing something that we didn't even know. There's no other interior design picture of Fontana provided. There's no model suite being setup. I've never seen a builder trying to sell something so unorganized. To me, they are not even ready to sell at the moment.
Not sure if other purchaser have similar feeling regarding this. H&W said they are 80% sold already using $0 to advertise and I guess in this world there's ppl who do believe in those marketing talk (or BS?) without carefully considering all the facts. I think it takes a lot more for H&W to try and beat other reputable condo builder like Tridel/Monarch than just saying that they are providing nicer laminate floor, better quality counter top etc. During the cancellation, their sales still kept saying how much money they pour into the building and they are actually losing money selling us the condo... blah blah blah... yeah right!
Well now that we cancelled the deal already, but I will still be interested to see how "well" this project is coming up in the near future.
Thank you for sharing the info Kurama27 ... welcome to UT !!
I kind of share the same feeling towards this Fontana project ... I very RARELY see Broker Preview Sales Material use hand drawn plans for marketing purposes (as shown above), it really shows they are not ready for marketing yet .... there doesn't seem to be details of any sort on this development (other than the 2 exterior renderings to date), I know for a fact that their sales office is still very much under construction, I'm quite suprised that they are 80% sold (if that is actually true) ... it scares me that so many people (investors) are just buying based on speculation with no details (even floorplan) on their purchase whatsoever
From my understanding, H&W is owned by the same person who runs Metro Square at Steeles Avenue & Ferrier Street
H&W developer is the worst developer i ever saw! im their recent customer, and I am so pissed off! they changed the price and the size of the floorplan for MANY TIMES without ANY notices! They were like , " okay, you dont' have to buy it if you dont like. You signed the offer, but our boss didnt sign the offer, so we have the right to change the information at any time!" They are right, but they are freaking wasting our customer's time!!!! Here is the story---Couple weeks ago I went to their office and was going to sign an offer for a 1+1 unit. But to my surprise, they raised the price about 2% on that day without any prior notice! I still signed the offer at the end cuz i really liked that unit. Their boss still havnt signed the offer, and i've been waiting for almost 2 weeks. And today, they informed me that the "1+1" unit has been changed to 2 bedroom unit! The overall area has been increased about 100 sf (some area is used from my balcony! ) And ofcourse the price has also raised extra $50000! HOW RIDICULOUS! and they explained to us that they did this because they wanted to improve the architecture for customer's sake!! what stupid excuse is this. Cant believe how greedy they are! They just should've clarify everything b4 selling to customers. NOw i dont think i can trust them anymore, they might change at ANY TIME!
Hi Maigo, thanks a lot for sharing your story. I am sure you and me aren't just the only two that had bad experience with H&W. I hope that by now you have already cancelled your deal and walked away. Spent your hard earned money elsewhere rather than on a builder like this. There's a lot of choice on the market now for Markham condos.
I've never seen a project on sale that is so unorganized. The whole thing is not even up to a point that it is ready for sale. The unit that we purchase was on the 3rd floor, I ask the sales a question if they know 3rd floor is the floor above the townhouse unit or if the floor above the townhouse unit is actually the 1st floor, no one know anything. We went to ask the male boss with our floor plan, he use quite an unfriendly tone and said floor plan already sent to your broker, you better ask your broker why there's no 3rd floor! I receive 2 package of preliminary floor plan from my two different brokers and I couldn't find any info about the 3rd floor! That tells me that the male boss doesn't even know what he is talking about. He doesn't even know his company didn't send out 3rd floor plan to brokers! Now when I request for floor plan of my unit. He told the other sales that "forsure" they have it and he will help me find it. I saw him walk into the office and a few min later, he was out chatting with ppl without coming back to say a word regarding my floor plan. Now I know they don't even have all the floor plan ready when they start selling! How can you start selling things that you didn't even know?!?!
I am so skeptical about this H&W company (not much history other than owning metro square), which makes me think that this whole thing is like a scam, why? Because :
: Start selling when they don't even have floor plan
: No picture of the entire project other than the lousy building rendering. The male and female boss only BS about the design and material. What is the design of the pool, club house, lobby etc? No one can say anything firm.
: No sample of material shown. Kitchen style? What types of flooring?
: Sales with no knowledge about the project and an unfriendly boss
: No price list was ever shown. Each unit has a price that only gets reveal when you purchase but there's no master price list for buyer to see.
I hope that all other purchaser can take a few moment to give this some thought. Use your common sense and don't just blindly believe what the builder/broker say about the project. Use your own judgement when buying your property and buy wisely!