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Finch West Line 6 LRT

Edllguy said:
Now that Finch West LRT is moving forward I feel that it would make good sense and planning to have it extended to Pearson Airport. It could take off a lot of traffic pressure at 400/401 and other traffic arteries.

If ever the Finch West LRT would be extended to Woodbine and then Pearson Airport, out curiosity, what would be the best terminus end point for the Pearson Airport stop so that people could have the best and quickest connection time to Terminals 1 and 3?

Thanks
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The original plan was for the Finch West LRT to start at Yonge Street and go west to Humber College, with an extension to Woodbine Racetrack and Pearson Airport later. The non-transit users and penny-pinchers were not happy, so to appease them, the plan was cut back to start at Keele Street (Finch West Station), with an extension to Yonge Street coming later, and another extension to the airport in the very distant future. To have it go now to Pearson Airport, would just make them angry, very angry. (You wouldn't like it if they get very, very angry.)
 
W. K. Lis said:
The original plan was for the Finch West LRT to start at Yonge Street and go west to Humber College, with an extension to Woodbine Racetrack and Pearson Airport later. The non-transit users and penny-pinchers were not happy, so to appease them, the plan was cut back to start at Keele Street (Finch West Station), with an extension to Yonge Street coming later, and another extension to the airport in the very distant future. To have it go now to Pearson Airport, would just make them angry, very angry. (You wouldn't like it if they get very, very angry.)
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So far, the only significant opposition to Finch LRT is registered in the Emery Village area, around Weston Rd. Businesses are concerned about the ability of their tracks to make left turns to / from Finch. This section is part of Phase 1, and the LRT is getting built there whether they like it or not.

I did not hear of any opposition to the Keele - Yonge section, or the Humber - Woodbine - Pearson section.

The obstacles are mainly fiscal; the provincial Liberals are running a deficit, therefore they tend to delay their transit funding plans in order to limit the said deficit.
 
Edllguy said:
Now that Finch West LRT is moving forward I feel that it would make good sense and planning to have it extended to Pearson Airport. It could take off a lot of traffic pressure at 400/401 and other traffic arteries.

If ever the Finch West LRT would be extended to Woodbine and then Pearson Airport, out curiosity, what would be the best terminus end point for the Pearson Airport stop so that people could have the best and quickest connection time to Terminals 1 and 3?

Thanks
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I agree, and during the years this extension is being designed/built, run a bus between Humber College to Pearson, so you can take the LRT, then a quick bus ride to the airport.

The Silver Line in Washington DC is being extended to Dulles airport, but in the meantime they have a 10 min bus connection while its being built.
 
Rainforest said:
I did not hear of any opposition to the Keele - Yonge section, or the Humber - Woodbine - Pearson section.
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There wasn't significant opposition toe the Keele-Yonge section; it was cut back to keep the project on-budget in 2010, along with the Yonge-Don Mills section. There was never any official approval of a Humber-Woodbine-Pearson section, it was only ever an idea, unlike the Keele-Yonge section which has an approved EA, or the Yonge-Don Mills section, which the Liberals had promised to fun 100%.
 
nfitz said:
There wasn't significant opposition toe the Keele-Yonge section; it was cut back to keep the project on-budget in 2010, along with the Yonge-Don Mills section. There was never any official approval of a Humber-Woodbine-Pearson section, it was only ever an idea, unlike the Keele-Yonge section which has an approved EA, or the Yonge-Don Mills section, which the Liberals had promised to fun 100%.
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You are right, but that does not really predict which section goes next. They might decide that the Humber-Woodbine-Pearson section is more useful from the network perspective, and / or gives more political dividends, and fund it before the Keele-Yonge section despite the previous commitments.

I would slightly prefer the Keele-Yonge section to be build first. However, the Humber-Woodbine-Pearson section is also quite useful, and if it gets built first, there is no reason to complain.

I don't really like the the Yonge-Don Mills section, as it would complicate the Finch East TTC service big time. If the LRT continues east of Yonge, it should go all the way east, at least to McCowan.
 
Planners haven't determined how Finch West would get to Pearson. There's a real lack of an obvious route.

Personally, I'd have the LRT create its own route, mostly off-street, but that doesn't fit in with the Transit City philosophy.
 
Down Highway 27, then somehow reaching Pearson seems like the obvious direction. It will pass the University of Guelph-Humber, Woodbine Centre, and the Woodbine Racetrack, should something there ever happen be it casino or NFL team stadium.

Maybe Finch West can join with a Pearson spur of the Eglinton Crosstown just west of HW-27 and Dixon, before reaching Pearson's terminals.
 
CDL.TO said:
I like how your response to a post about the lack of an obvious route includes the word "somehow".
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:p

I didn't want to talk out of my ass and I didn't want to spend a long time going through pages of the Transit Fantasy thread looking for other people's proposed routing. I think the Hw-27 portion is the obvious route choice but how to get from there to Pearson is still up in the air.

Personally, I agree that a new corridor for the LRT may have to be built at that point.
 
Another choice would be to use Carlingview to get down to the Dixon road to get to the airport.
 
Btw, the Hwy 27 route is not ideal for serving Humber College. The stop at Hwy 27 and Humber College blvd will be at a 400+ m walking distance from the majority of building entrances.

It would be nice to have a branch that goes directly through the campus; but I guess the planners thought about such option, and found it impractical for some reason.

As it stands, many students / staff will have to take a 1- or 2-stop TTC bus ride from their building to reach the LRT; or a campus bus shuttle may be introduced for that purpose.
 
Rainforest said:
Btw, the Hwy 27 route is not ideal for serving Humber College. The stop at Hwy 27 and Humber College blvd will be at a 400+ m walking distance from the majority of building entrances.

It would be nice to have a branch that goes directly through the campus; but I guess the planners thought about such option, and found it impractical for some reason.

As it stands, many students / staff will have to take a 1- or 2-stop TTC bus ride from their building to reach the LRT; or a campus bus shuttle may be introduced for that purpose.
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I thought the Humber College stop is directly on the campus of the school. They also have a Highway 27 and Humber College Boulevard stop which I guess is supposed to serve the hospital.

http://thecrosstown.ca/sites/default/files/pdf/reports/Finch-EA/chapter_2_plates_part_1.pdf
 
Adjei said:
I thought the Humber College stop is directly on the campus of the school. They also have a Highway 27 and Humber College Boulevard stop which I guess is supposed to serve the hospital.

http://thecrosstown.ca/sites/default/files/pdf/reports/Finch-EA/chapter_2_plates_part_1.pdf
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Looking at the map (see link), they will be sacrificing parking lots for the Humber College stop. Along with the expected bus bays, and expansion with new buildings, I would expect to see a lot of changes in the northeast corner. If it were to continue, it will be crossing the Humber River and skirting the housing developments currently on the other side.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Looking at the map (see link), they will be sacrificing parking lots for the Humber College stop. Along with the expected bus bays, and expansion with new buildings, I would expect to see a lot of changes in the northeast corner. If it were to continue, it will be crossing the Humber River and skirting the housing developments currently on the other side.
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Humber College is building a bus loop on the campus: http://humberetc.com/humber-college-bus-loop-to-make-commuting-easier-for-students/

Hopefully the LRT makes a connection there to make it easier for passengers to transfer to buses.
 
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