doady
Senior Member
I don't like the idea that neighbourhoods should never change and that measures should be taken to prevent any change that might occur. That is such a MikeToronto point of view.
Except now that subways are being mentioned, Giambrone et al. are freaking out. I don't get why the NDP seems to hate subways now. Wasn't it Bob Rae who started Eglinton and Sheppard?
That's right. Everybody who is associated with a particular party thinks 100% the same on every possible issue.
That just about hits the nail on the head. I think that ART would work rather well on Eglinton, with an underground section in the middle and a monarail-like raised section on the non-underground portions of the route. If built properly, I think it would be just as good as a subway. The LRT that is being proposed right now really doesn't seem to belong on Eglinton, both due to speed and ridership (ridership potential as well)Thank you Tuscani01. Exactly what I was looking for.
I'm just sorting out the arguments for RT over LRT in the Eglinton Crosstown. From my understanding the major differences b/w classic RT and LRT is speed and capacity. It appears as though the station spacing is closer to subway spacing, so speed - especially in the underground section - isn't the primary issue. That leads me to believe its a capacity issue and I'm wondering if Eglinton demands a capacity that an LRT cannot bear and hence the desire for a subway. Or maybe I'm missing the point entirely
That just about hits the nail on the head. I think that ART would work rather well on Eglinton, with an underground section in the middle and a monarail-like raised section on the non-underground portions of the route. If built properly, I think it would be just as good as a subway. The LRT that is being proposed right now really doesn't seem to belong on Eglinton, both due to speed and ridership (ridership potential as well)
That just about hits the nail on the head. I think that ART would work rather well on Eglinton, with an underground section in the middle and a monarail-like raised section on the non-underground portions of the route. If built properly, I think it would be just as good as a subway. The LRT that is being proposed right now really doesn't seem to belong on Eglinton, both due to speed and ridership (ridership potential as well)
I fear we are wasting a huge amount of money on projects that will be only marginally better than buses, other than for the central tunneled section of Eglinton.
The only thing I'd push for is proper use of the Richview Corridor like Edmonton or Minneapolis with railway-style signal priority or a few underpasses. There's absolutely no need for centre-of-the-street ROW through there anyway. If that was done, the only slowish sections would be Bermondsey to Kennedy.
Let's hope so.
Isn't the Eglinton Benefits Case supposed to go to the Metrolinx board this month?
It's a Metrolinx process that each project is undergoing. It looks at several options and reviews costs and benefits of each. In the case of Eglinton, it is supposed to look at variations in the length of the grade-separated segment.Pardon my ignorance....what is that?
It's a Metrolinx process that each project is undergoing. It looks at several options and reviews costs and benefits of each. In the case of Eglinton, it is supposed to look at variations in the length of the grade-separated segment.
So far, BCAs have been released for VIVA and SRT.You can see them by going to http://www.metrolinx.com/en/Projects.aspx and clicking the "Benefits Cases" link in the main text.
Undoubtedly, although I suppose the "escape clause" is that these projects were already prioritized by Metrolinx, and they are allowing the processes to continue.No need to tell you, I am sure, that I am tying this into my whole thought process about this week's announcement of funding being a circumvention of M'linx' process (I mean, the provinced announces funding, puts an amount on it and M'linx hasn't even finished this?...come on!) as well as trying to define (prompted by Mr Giambrone's comments) what shovel ready means.