The city has much less say regarding GO. It's nearly entirely up to the Province.I'm not opposed to congestion charges downtown, with exemptions for local residents, but agree that GO needs improvements first. If you don't live on the LSW or LSE GO line, it's still too challenging to go downtown and there isn't enough capacity on GO buses to bring people displaced by the charges downtown.
Once GO expansion is wrapping up, congestion charges will be a lot more appropriate.
For example the area bounded by Bathurst, Bloor, Don Valley and the Lake/Portlands might be a sensible area to start off with. Probably Bloor street will have to be included in the initial zone as congestion is already severe. Maybe some signs will be needed on Davenpost and Dupon for streets southbound to let motorists know that the zone is up ahead. Bathurst could be included or act as the border road depending on the severity of congestion.
The actual structure of the collection system could be using a gantry style system like Singapore or pole mounted like London, with license plate reading cameras.
The pricing scheme could start off with rush hour pricing only, i.e. 8am-11am, 3pm-6pm, or some variant, as those are the times most in danger of gridlock.
The city has much less say regarding GO. It's nearly entirely up to the Province.
Convincing a majority of MPPs for any further changes to GO is a significantly more politically challenging task.
The city does however have a big say in a potential downtown congestion pricing system. And it's much easier to convince a majority of city councillors.
So I'd rather keep the discussion separate for practical reasons as there's very little point in combing two different things that have a huge gap in their political difficulty and are under different authorities.
I never claimed they had exclusive say over it? This seems to be refuting a point invented by yourself. It's clear that Queen's Park can block it indefinitely if they really wanted to.Nope the city can't implement that without the province saying that they can first.
London seems to be doing fine with an even larger of streets from all directions, whereas we have the lake as the southern boundary.Most cities that have it are ones that are divided by natural barriers that make it easier to enforce ie downtown bridges to toll but Toronto has untold number of streets entering the city.
How will any business suffer? The total number of customers will at the very least remain the same, and probably increase, as everyone will move around faster.I don't really agree with congestion pricing. It only pertains to a small area of the city so the businesses in the core suffer while those outside it don't have to worry about it effecting their business.
I never claimed they had exclusive say over it? This seems to be refuting a point invented by yourself. It's clear that Queen's Park can block it indefinitely if they really wanted to.
While taxing parking makes sense, I wonder if that will have the unexpected effect of encouraging more VMTs with rideshare and eventually robotaxi.Downtown residents must love Doug Ford. They keep proposing ideas that will make him more popular in the outer 416 and the 905. And let's be clear tolling or congestion pricing will be seen as an attack on them.
There's a better way.....tax parking and zone it away over time. This can be done without much change in legislation. It can be done gradually in conjunction with GO RER buildup. It can also just be done as part of an overall strategy focused on making downtown more walkable.
While taxing parking makes sense, I wonder if that will have the unexpected effect of encouraging more VMTs with rideshare and eventually robotaxi.