sixrings
Senior Member
Think of your great grand kids won't you12 years we've been debating this, and we don't even have a construction start date in sight. Some of us will be too old to properly use this thing whenever the heck its done.
Think of your great grand kids won't you12 years we've been debating this, and we don't even have a construction start date in sight. Some of us will be too old to properly use this thing whenever the heck its done.
Why are you such a sheep listening to this left wing media bias. Clearly only the sun is torontos only reputable paper while whoever ford hired to do his interviews is the only serious news channel. Everyone else is bought off by unions, special interest groups, and people who believe in global warming.ANALYSIS
Scarborough subway debate leaves 35,000 RT riders waiting — but for what?
After 12 years, Scarborough subway plan is rife with unknowns
Matt Elliott · CBC News · Posted: Jan 20, 2019 9:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 6 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...ing-more-uncertainty-for-ttc-riders-1.4984785
12 years we've been debating this, and we don't even have a construction start date in sight. Some of us will be too old to properly use this thing whenever the heck its done.
Think of your great grand kids won't you
Latest Star article where they interview people with development experience.
One quick question. If they [the province] wanted to extend the subway to Sheppard for a stop there, wouldn't the line need to straighten out at the STC stop? Am I wrong in recalling that they [City staff] made it bend to the northwest? I wonder if that's the reason the 30% design cost estimate is now delayed until April 2019. They need to future proof for what Ford wants.
Usually "future proof" means to allow for multiple options in the future. Is the new definition to sabotage things so nothing useful can be done with it?Latest Star article where they interview people with development experience.
One quick question. If they [the province] wanted to extend the subway to Sheppard for a stop there, wouldn't the line need to straighten out at the STC stop? Am I wrong in recalling that they [City staff] made it bend to the northwest? I wonder if that's the reason the 30% design cost estimate is now delayed until April 2019. They need to future proof for what Ford wants.
It's almost like the government wants this project to die
Then why bring it up. It looks just like the fearmongering and misinformation (or "propaganda" as you call it) that you claim to be against.
Was it really that bad? Parts of Eglinton and Sheppard can afford to go to two lanes in each direction. These are wide avenues. Not to mention having commuted on the 85A bus traffic becomes pretty light after McCowan. Grade separation would definitely be overkill. I do think, however, conversion of the Sheppard subway to LRT needed more serious consideration. Almost everyone should agree that that transfer, despite its ease, was not natural.
You’ve heard of “analysis paralysis”? With this government, it’s “let’s not analyse, ever”. They throw out talking points but not facts, or statistics, or any sort of analysis. I bet they never did homework in high school - ever.
All the posts after mine earlier were interesting, but does anyone know the answer to the question I had? Does the currently available public plan show a bend for the STC station and tail track and would this need to change if the province wanted the line to continue to Sheppard (for the third stop)?
I assume you’re someone who lives in Scarborough who takes transit to other places in Scarborough AND sometimes takes transit to North York/Downtown. It’s great that you’ve added to the conversation by admitting that the current plan is the worst option and something like a massive LRT network (some in their dedicated ROW and some on-street median) would be a good option. However (I don’t blame you), it is too late for any major “flip-flopping” to occur as the Line 2 East Subway Extension is already far in design and plan to start construction in 2020. Good for you for no longer being a lurker.I rarely post, but I felt I have to as a individual who has spent the better part of his life living and commuting within Scarborough. The current plan will be the worst transit option in Scarborough's history, next to the present day SRT. There is a lot of travel within Scarborough and to be honest it sucks. We are crammed into bus routes that are primarily shared with traffic and only have two main transit hubs Kennedy station and STC. The current plan will perpetuate this unfortunate reality and will save 10 mins to many people but will be a great disservice to all Scarborough residents.
Scarborough is a actually a very spread out neighbourhood and if you don't have a car your pretty much a second class citizen. Although cars are fairly inexpensive and a a lot of residents have access to a car. It is not practical for the whole community...as it makes commuting to work and/or school a real pain when using public transit and we feel robbed of our time and put the blame on an ineffective transit system based from out of touch politicians. How can we create a better transit solution, when most of us don't even trust the decision makers?.. I honestly don't know what the right solution....but I do want to make an informed choice, this decision will alter my community, a place me and my children call home. I want a system that can connect our neighbourhoods, make commuting to work and school faster and more pleasant and most importantly positively impact one of the most forgotten parts of Toronto.
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From the research I have done, I would like to further explore options that connects neighbourhoods through lrts and BRT lane, which canto Rapid Rail service (GO RER). I also like the concept of consolidating SRT and Sheppart east transit through Neptis. Maybe combining the two systems to connect Fairview mall, with Agincourt, STC, Centennial, Malvern, UTSC, Kingston Road and Kennedy Station.
Sheppard East + SRT (Malvern) + EELRT+ GO RER
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Sheppard + SRT (Malvern) Hybrid
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Souce:
http://www.neptis.org/publications/.../solution-scarborough-impasse-scarborough-wye
https://uttri.utoronto.ca/files/2015/03/Choices-for-Scarborough.pdf