Cycling infrastructure (Separated bike lanes)

[DSCToronto]

I don’t even think Toronto bothers to try timing the lights to driving speeds, other than a handful of streets. That capability is probably well beyond what Toronto could coordinate. And doing it for bikes would be a non-starter for sure?

Actually, the City has quite a few coordinated signals and are adding more but you are, of course, correct about extending it to bikes!

SEE: https://www.toronto.ca/services-pay...gns/signal-optimization-coordination-program/

 

[nfitz]

I don’t even think Toronto bothers to try timing the lights to driving speeds, other than a handful of streets. That capability is probably well beyond what Toronto could coordinate. And doing it for bikes would be a non-starter for sure?

I'm puzzled why you think Toronto couldn't co-ordinate this, when small cities did standardly did this in the 1970s.

Or are you just referring to cars? It does seem a bit silly for bikes, given variable speeds, those who cycle, compared those on motorized vehicles in the bike lanes.

 

[afransen]

I don’t even think Toronto bothers to try timing the lights to driving speeds, other than a handful of streets. That capability is probably well beyond what Toronto could coordinate. And doing it for bikes would be a non-starter for sure?

Toronto has far too many lights to make synchronization feasible.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

With traffic signals, some drivers behave like they're at a drag race. Once the traffic signal light (on the farside of the intersection) ahead of them turns green, they press hard on the accelerator and try to rocket away from the stop line (or crosswalk or cross traffic lane) as much as possible... until they reach the next red light. Some go past the speed limit (posted or unposted). Sometimes there is a pedestrian or cyclist still crossing ahead of them, which they would have seen if we used nearside traffic signals, and the driver blare their horn to get them to move faster.

(Or are you chicken, McFly?)

 

[Toronto1834]

Rathburn Road Bikeway and Safety Improvements

The City of Toronto is inviting residents to learn more and provide feedback on opportunities for cycling and road safety improvements on Rathburn Road from Melbert Road to The East Mall. The City is planning to resurface the road and replace substandard water services in 2027 providing an...

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[tallcoleman]

Rathburn Road Bikeway and Safety Improvements

The City of Toronto is inviting residents to learn more and provide feedback on opportunities for cycling and road safety improvements on Rathburn Road from Melbert Road to The East Mall. The City is planning to resurface the road and replace substandard water services in 2027 providing an...

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"Proposed bikeway connections in Segment 3 between The West Mall and The East Mall require Ministry of Transportation approval. Further consultation is planned for this segment in 2028-2029."

Frustrating that they have to delay this section, since having a safe highway crossing might be the most useful part of the upgrade. Is this because of needing to remove a vehicle lane, or just because of the proximity to the highway?

 

[nfitz]

Toronto has far too many lights to make synchronization feasible.

And yet it does sync a lot of them.

I'm not sure how the number of lights makes much difference - though the congestion does. And they don't do all streets.

The biggest issue is that really, it only works well all the time, on one-way streets. But when traffic is flowing in rush hour, I find I usually hit most of the lights Green on Kingston Road, east of Danforth Avenue. And mostly red if I drive that way in the morning, when the lights are all timed for inbound traffic. They'd been doing this for a long time, when I was looking at a job in the traffic control unit for Metro Traffic in the mid-1980s.

Back then the control-system and staff used to be in unused Sheppard Station space under the Sheppard/Yonge intersection; they lost that when they started building Line 4. I'd assume that it's not necessary to hardwire them into all the traffic lights with dedicated wires these days. I'd guess that the programs that run the lights are no longer in machine code with with only a cB or two of storage.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Rathburn Road Bikeway and Safety Improvements

The City of Toronto is inviting residents to learn more and provide feedback on opportunities for cycling and road safety improvements on Rathburn Road from Melbert Road to The East Mall. The City is planning to resurface the road and replace substandard water services in 2027 providing an...

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Don't see anything about connecting Rathburn Road in Toronto with Rathburn Road East in Mississauga, for cyclists and pedestrians.

 

[TwoWheelPoli]

Don't see anything about connecting Rathburn Road in Toronto with Rathburn Road East in Mississauga, for cyclists and pedestrians.
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That part is unfortunate, but I believe Rathburn was prioritized because there already is a bike lane from The East Mall to Islington.

 

[Northern Light]

Rathburn Road Bikeway and Safety Improvements

The City of Toronto is inviting residents to learn more and provide feedback on opportunities for cycling and road safety improvements on Rathburn Road from Melbert Road to The East Mall. The City is planning to resurface the road and replace substandard water services in 2027 providing an...

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They haven't put the roll planes out yet. But let me outlines what has been stated and then add comment:

Resizing the lanes here will generally achieve a savings equal to 1.8M of space.

To permit a bidirectional cycletrack they will require at least 3M, more would be ideal. This will have to come from the boulevards. Generally the boulevards are wide
enough to support this, however, tree placement may be an issue in some cases. (some removals may be required) But layby removal seems likely (this would be desirable)

Same comments as above

This section is problematic. Consulting the MTO is a necessity. navigating the on/off ramps as currently designed is no easy feat (safely)

Not sure what the City has in mind here.

On the bridge there are up to 7 lanes of traffic, resizing could achieve ~4m, but if you were retaining the vehicle lanes, I would definitely want physical separation which would take up some space.

i doubt the City would want to fund, or work with the MTO to redesign this interchange; but I will put out there that it is feasible to take the two ramps on the west side and have them intersect Rathburn at a new traffic light which would be much safer.

The east side does not have room for that solution but could still see the ramps curtailed/straightened a bit to slow traffic and create something closer to a hard right exit.

 

[enter username]

The surface of Harbord is done from Bathurst to Grace excluding some top layer gaps mostly on the south side. From Grace to Ossington the old surface is now removed and forms are going in for curbs along the south side track.

Also the re-surfacing of Palmerston from College to Dundas appears to have been done for some time now.

 

[DSCToronto]

Still no sign of any work on The Esplanade from Jarvis to Scott - it's all very odd and the City Bike Crew seem to have gone totally silent on it all. The street still has lots of orange barrels so they may be hoping/planning/thinking of starting work again but they have been there for months now.

 

[slicecom]

Still no sign of any work on The Esplanade from Jarvis to Scott - it's all very odd and the City Bike Crew seem to have gone totally silent on it all. The street still has lots of orange barrels so they may be hoping/planning/thinking of starting work again but they have been there for months now.

I noticed a sign of work tonight!

 

[mburrrrr]

Some partial lines but they stop short of Church St. and bike traffic lights at Yonge but no white lines Yonge to Scott

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[mburrrrr]

Hmm. More lines this morning.
The path does not move out from the car in/out entrance at the 25/35/45 The Esplanade as once planned.

Let’s open this the weekend of Friday, Oct 24th and Saturday October 25th when the train bridges are lifted in place over Jarvis/Sherbourne planned road closures and The Leafs and Raptors play and the Jays are in the World Series at Home.

New accessibility work was completed last week at Scott and Front.

This waste bin gets dropped off and filled every late night/early morning for Meridian Hall work I assume. Can’t they use their own property? Not a good location for people crossing, buses, construction at the Green P and CIBC Square and the 5-10 couriers waiting to pick up mail from the postal depot. ….oh (postal strike). Not so bad the last few mornings.

Old plans.