Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[coopEng]

Most people coming from the west will get on the Spadina line if they are heading to the Financial District. I would expect the eastbound trains to arrive at Yonge fairly empty.

Is there a crossover for Spadina north of Eglinton West? It doesn't make sense for trains to turn back at St Clair West after this is built.

Not sure that will be true - if it was the case then why do a lot of people from the west continue to transfer at Bloor-Yonge today? Why is Eglinton any different than Bloor?

 

[Leo_Chan]

Ah, I assumed that the long corridors for transfers were so they could install Presto gates or put fare inspectors

"Barrier free access" is important.

Most people coming from the west will get on the Spadina line if they are heading to the Financial District. I would expect the eastbound trains to arrive at Yonge fairly empty.

Is there a crossover for Spadina north of Eglinton West? It doesn't make sense for trains to turn back at St Clair West after this is built.

Yes, between Lawrence West and Glencairn.

 

[muller877]

Not sure that will be true - if it was the case then why do a lot of people from the west continue to transfer at Bloor-Yonge today? Why is Eglinton any different than Bloor?

there is an expectation that many people in the NW portion of Toronto that currently use the Bloor line will now migrate to the Crosstown LRT. A good example of this is all the people on the 35 bus. Once they get on the LRT they can either disembark at Eglinton West (a very quick transfer) or go to Eglinton Station (a longer walk) and get on the Yonge Line.

For those that currently get off at Queen or Dundas it would now be quicker to get off at St Clair West and go around the U (and get a seat). They might now be using Yonge & Bloor.

Regardless of their choice the good news is that fewer people will be transferring at Yonge & Bloor which will help the capacity of the station.

 

[steveintoronto]

there is an expectation that many people in the NW portion of Toronto that currently use the Bloor line will now migrate to the Crosstown LRT. A good example of this is all the people on the 35 bus. Once they get on the LRT they can either disembark at Eglinton West (a very quick transfer) or go to Eglinton Station (a longer walk) and get on the Yonge Line.

Anyone have a time comparison for Jane to Yonge of the two routes, and perhaps more relevant: Jane to the University-Spadina leg of Eglinton v. Bloor? Certainly the Jane bus is a slog, as are many west-end north of Bloor bus routes.

The travel time advantage that Muller points out, and steel on steel the entire distance could be considerably faster and less crowded.

 

[Amare]

Regardless of their choice the good news is that fewer people will be transferring at Yonge & Bloor which will help the capacity of the station.

While this is true, the TTC and Metrolinx seems intent on recreating the Bloor-Yonge experience again at Eglinton station (where things are already getting worse each day).

 

[Leo_Chan]

While this is true, the TTC and Metrolinx seems intent on recreating the Bloor-Yonge experience again at Eglinton station (where things are already getting worse each day).

It's the Toronto Experience. Good transit in general, bad rapid transit coverage, but amazing capacity limits!

 

[Juan_Lennon416]

Regardless of their choice the good news is that fewer people will be transferring at Yonge & Bloor which will help the capacity of the station.

I would not jump to that conclusion at this time. It is one of those things that you have to wait and see.

 

[Cobra]

In case this flew under the radar, Quebec City is getting their own "Crosstown"
*Just for Info, will create dedicated thread in the right place* -->https://skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/quebec-city-rapid-transit-network.28442/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-tramway-announcement-1.4577912

Quebec City Rapid Transit Network

• Cost :$3B
• LRT : 23km (3.5km in tunnels with underground stations) : $2.011B
• LRT Travel time : 38 minutes
  
• TramBus: $570.9M
• Transit Infrastructure : 407.8M
• Planning: 2020-2021
• Construction starts: 2022
• In Service: 2026

 

[hw621]

In case this flew under the radar, Quebec City is getting their own "Crosstown"
*Just for Info, will create dedicated thread in the right place*

Quebec City Rapid Transit Network

• Cost :$3B
• LRT : 23km (3.5km in tunnels with underground stations) : $2.011B
• TramBus: $570.9M
• Transit Infrastructure : 407.8M
• Planning: 2020-2021
• Construction starts: 2022
• In Service: 2026

It does not go to their airport, which makes me scratch my head. Also how come their planning is so much shorter?

 

[Cobra]

It does not go to their airport, which makes me scratch my head. Also how come their planning is so much shorter?

They started a bus service to the airport recently. They opened the door to future phases reaching the airport. As for the planning process, just proves that we have a problem in Ontario. The Montreal REM planning was crazy fast and they are starting construction as early as this month.

The Relief line wasting half a decade in planning is utterly unacceptable.

 

[aquateam]

It does not go to their airport, which makes me scratch my head.

But at least it connects to VIA HFR

 

[begratto]

But at least it connects to VIA HFR

Actually, it does not, unfortunately. Gare du Palais isn't going to be connected to the LRT / tramway de Québec.

 

[hw621]

They started a bus service to the airport recently. They opened the door to future phases reaching the airport. As for the planning process, just proves that we have a problem in Ontario. The Montreal REM planning was crazy fast and they are starting construction as early as this month.

The Relief line wasting half a decade in planning is utterly unacceptable.

Even the crosstown took years to plan

 

[Streety McCarface]

Even the crosstown took years to plan

It will start construction in 2022, 4 years from now. That's arguably half a decade right there. Also, let it be known that they're not building one of the most complicated subways in the world under a huge downtown core that's crossing 3 subway lines. They're building a simple LRT line with a cut and cover tunnel. There is no comparison.

 

[robmausser]

It will start construction in 2022, 4 years from now. That's arguably half a decade right there. Also, let it be known that they're not building one of the most complicated subways in the world under a huge downtown core that's crossing 3 subway lines. They're building a simple LRT line with a cut and cover tunnel. There is no comparison.

Yes people here and elsewhere can't wrap their heads around the fact that the DRL south will be THE most technically challenging transit project in the history of the city.