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Cops above the law

What's to say he would've been found guilty of the robbery and sex assault charges? Even if he had been convicted on all charges,he would've still only have done 14 months as he was sentenced to anyhow. I commend the police in their foresight into this fact and delivering instant justice via beating the crap outta him..
 
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what I find interesting here is that knowing various posters beliefs on different subjects here on the forum as well as my own, is that its interesting to see how some people always find themselves at odds with each other no matter the subject... while for me I agree with some members on certain subjects and disagree on others. On this discussion I kind of come down in the middle. I mostly supported the actions of the police during the G20. Those were extreme and unusual conditions that were only going to last a few days, so I think they had more latitude to react in a stronger than usual way. Now on the more specific topic of this thread regarding incidents that have been brought before the SIU, it does seem to me that police are receiving special treatment. I am not a specialist on this issue and I am too lazy to dig up articles on specific cases, but I know from watching the evening news / special reports about high profile cases, it does look like something stinks behind the scenes and cops are getting away with outrageuous abuses of power.

I disagree with anyone that that thinks police should be able to step outside the law in their day to day duties or infact use their police id's to entitle them to speed etc with impunity while off duty. I hate to break it to you but that is what might be referred to as corruption and will only lead to a reduced respect for cops from the rest of society.
 
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I worked as an LEO for 3+ years before I couldn't take it anymore. The corruption/abuse of power is phenomenal and systemic. Do some (but not all) officers have a tough job? Sure, some do... but some really don't at all. And the majority do abuse their power from time to time - even if it is a more minor thing like running red lights and chronic speeding on their own time. The worst offenders are a small minority of the force, but they are protected as well as the Hope Diamond. The real problem is the lack of independent oversight made up of the people who pay the officer's salaries - the citizens. Know the phrase, 'Absolute power corrupts absolutely'?... it rings true.
 
The real problem is the lack of independent oversight made up of the people who pay the officer's salaries -

This is the heart of the problem. The SIU is described as a "Civilian Law enforcement agency". What people don't realize is that the "Civilians" are crown prosecutors and we all know how the police and prosecutors work hand in hand. They have each others backs covered. The SIU needs to be reformed so that the decision to lay charges is made by a panel of regular people (much like a jury) who are not connected to law enforcement or the justice system in any way. In cases where the SIU declines to press charges I would hope that victims realize that they can go before a justice of the peace and request that an arrest warrant be issued (as was done in the case of the Vietnamese robber).
 
Unbelievable ! Cop escapes jail and given 2 years probation for a hit-and-run manslaughter :mad:

I just noticed that the crown prosecutor in this case was Ian Scott who is the current Director of the "Civilian" SIU! As prosecutor in this case he asked for an extremely light sentence.
 
civilians get even less of a sentence for hit and run causing death,even while intoxicated

http://www.educationforthedrivingmasses.com/2010/08/adam-lund-found-guilty-in-pedestrian.html

I don't think that type of sentencing is very common? If it is, then it's a loophole. Anyone can just commit murder and walk away scott free claiming ignorance being under influence of drugs/alcohol and pretending to feel remorseful.

He even admitted to drinking and driving but the judge says he wasn't charged for dangerous driving? I thought drinking and driving is dangerous driving? I don't know what the judge is smoking. Or the cops for that matter. After hearing the confession, the police should have charged him for dangerous driving and manslaughter.
 
so, because they waited 2 days to hand in their notes,that makes them guilty? I can tell you that when someone dies in the hospital,even if it's not due to negligence, RN's and doctors are given extra time to write their notes, supervisors read them before they are handed in,and sometimes they are made to make changes by management.You would find the same thing in any workplace where there has been a death or accident. And, having schizophrenia,at times,make individuals more prone to violent attacks..look up threat/control override symptoms.
 
Killer Cop cleared by SIU thanks to fabricated "evidence" :mad:

http://www.thestar.com/news/investi...days-to-write-notes-after-fatal-shooting?bn=1

Two days after shooting to death a schizophrenic man, a Police Union supplied lawyer coaches both the shooter cop and witness cop on their "version" of events :mad:

Considering that the SIU has charged cops with murder/assault when there was clearly no evidence to suggest it, and much evidence to the contrary, I'd be extra careful when writing up notes as well.
 
Cowardly Cop shoots dead a 59 y/o mentally and physically disabled man armed with a closed 2 inch pocket knife ! :mad:

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/885473--man-died-in-hail-of-bullets?bn=1

This latest installment of cops above the law includes witness tampering and false testimony by the "subject officer" who was completely cleared by the SIU.

"The constable wore a bulletproof vest that night and carried a baton and pepper spray. When the SIU asked why Seguin did not use his baton, Seguin, incredulous, said: “Because he was using a lethal-force option on me and my (baton) is not a use-of-lethal-force option.”


The "lethal-force" facing the cop? a closed 2 inch pocket knife! :mad:
 
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Cowardly Cop shoots dead a 59 y/o mentally and physically disabled man armed with a closed 2 inch pocket knife ! :mad:

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/885473--man-died-in-hail-of-bullets?bn=1

This latest installment of cops above the law includes witness tampering and false testimony by the "subject officer" who was completely cleared by the SIU.

"The constable wore a bulletproof vest that night and carried a baton and pepper spray. When the SIU asked why Seguin did not use his baton, Seguin, incredulous, said: “Because he was using a lethal-force option on me and my (baton) is not a use-of-lethal-force option.”


The "lethal-force" facing the cop? a closed 2 inch pocket knife! :mad:

Where was the rest of the family that ran out after the disabled man was shot? Why was a mentally and physically disabled man permitted to handle a situation which had escalated to the point of a 911 call? Why was there no one else there to support the man once the police had arrived?

It's terrible that lethal force was used on this poor man, I'm sure the officer could have made a shot that imobbilized him rather than killed him however he couldn't have had any knowledge that the victim was mentally challenged
 

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