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Condo craze continues with 41 per cent increase

Re: Speculation is rampant!

i think a lot of the people buying high rise condos are doing so not only because of the price or location, but because condos afford one the luxury of not having to deal with snow removal, mowing a lawn, doing the gardening etc etc. It is definitly a lifestyle choice. I live in a condo for a large part because I dont want to have to do any of the work that a home(house)owner would have to do.
 
Re: Speculation is rampant!

You're paying someone else to do it through your monthly fees, so there is no luxury involved, just an extra expense.
 
Re: Speculation is rampant!

"Have you seen what's actually out there for sale for $300,000? It ain't much, and it ain't good."


I have seen what's out there for that price, and a lot of it is very good, actually, requiring no further investment "to make it livable".


Also, haven't houses historically appreciated more rapidly than condos?


In any case, I agree that value is relative to preference, and obviously a lot of people prefer their condos to houses. People pay no more than what they are willing to pay.
 
OVERSUPPLY WARNING!

You'll get no argument for me with regards to the merits of hi-rise condo living. It's a growing part of the fabric of life in an urban town. Notwithstanding, the overwhelming concern is the complete of lack of correlation to the real demand for such accomodations and the influx of the new shadow supply of rentals that continue to plague the marginally regions of the city like an infestation. Inferior projects fuel neglect and in no time many of the vertical subdivisions will morph into the St. James Town's of the future.

On the issue of better value, the difference is that you can customize your SFH to your taste, remodel/renovate it at your leisure or simply do nothing. In a condo you are the mercy of a board and the building itself is subject to rapid capital depreciation that will raise maintenance costs continuously. Furthermore, many condos built less than 10 years are beginning to look dated already. Live in a condo if you enjoy the space but to consider it as an investment is a fool's mentality.
 
Re: OVERSUPPLY WARNING!

^ Really? Mine has doubled in the last 6 years.
 
Re: Condo "craze" continues

:eek
The sky is falling!!!!! ... not.

A lot of people may still be remembering when the sky actually did fall, in the Toronto real estate market, in the early 1990s. It affected all forms of housing. Conditions now are much different.

It would be interesting to sit down and do a real statistical analysis of price trends for condos vs. detached houses and see how much each category has appreciated. (It wouldn't be easy, there would be a number of variables.) My own impression after watching the market for many years is that location is a much more important variable than type of physical construction. Well-located condos, as with well-located houses, will hold their value. Some of those which are in less desirable locations, away from downtown, transit, or other good amenities, will accordingly rise less, or perhaps not at all.

With condos, there is admittedly the additional variable of how well the specific building is maintained. There are several examples which can be cited of short-sighted condo directors who took as their priority keeping the monthly fees down. When the underground garage needed $300,000 worth of repairs, and the reserve fund contained only $100,000, the owners got the dreaded "special assessment". Hopefully some changes to the Condominium Act a few years ago will have addressed this to a great extent. But it remains true that condo owners have less direct control over their environment and need to take an interest in how their project is being run.

The good market fundamentals are still in place (strong and diversified economy, historically low interest rates, lack of inflationary pressures, continuing immigration, etc.) These have been well documented recently. The sky definitely is not falling on us, and condo owners can sleep soundly at night.
 
Re: Condo "craze" continues

In my building, you don't need board approval to renovate your unit. You can only work on it between 9 and 5 though.
 
Re: Speculation is rampant!

I'm not sure why - a $300,000 house isn't better value for money when you really have to pay upwards of $400,000 in order to actually live in it.

Have you seen what's actually out there for sale for $300,000? It ain't much, and it ain't good.

My mom just bought a freehold townhouse two years ago for $260,000 or so, and it didn't require any fixing up and it is worth $330,000 now. It actually very well built, but the houses across the street are from a different developer and they are very poorly built both on the outside and on the inside.

I think the quality of a house depends more on the developer and not the price. Price just determines how good your location is and not the quality of the house itself, imo. Personally, I think location is important so I think condos are better but that's just me.
 
Re: Condo "craze" continues

With condos, there is admittedly the additional variable of how well the specific building is maintained.

I think condos are best compared to neighbourhoods with heritage designation in terms of what you can and cannot do.

Of course, it also means you have some control over what your neighbour can and cannot do that may impact the value of your home.

Bad neighbours are the kind that sue the city when the city gets a court order demanding cleanup of the front yard and that kind of thing. The stronger rules in condos and heritage designated neighbourhoods let you get those issues pretty early on. Took 8 years before Barrie my neighbours ran out of money and the city took their house for back-taxes -- thus fixing the problem.
 

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