Edward
Senior Member
I assume Concord Adex would have to buy the air rights from the railways to build above.
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CityPlace: St. Jamestown in waiting?
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unimaginative2
Senior Member
That rail corridor is now owned by GO. Above Union Station, the City of Toronto owns the air rights.
casaguy
Senior Member
I couldn't help but wonder whether if this morning's fog/smog shrouding the towers would make them look more appealing.
(Much like when they used to throw the gauze over the camera lens for Linda Evans on Dynasty).
(Much like when they used to throw the gauze over the camera lens for Linda Evans on Dynasty).
JasonParis
Moderator
Oh dahling, Alexis too! BTW, Season II is finally out on DVD!
Great pics by the way!
avatarreb
Active Member
It's hard for me to see Cityplace going towards low-income rentals. As someone said, each phase seems to be getting more and more expensive.
I had an opportunity to visit the showroom recently, and their phases west of Spadina are definitely moving more and more upscale. The cheapest of their current phases (IIRC) is selling for around $460-500/sqrft; hard to see these make good candidates as cheap rentals. You can't even get such things as non-stainless steel appliances or non-granite countertops anymore.
Some photos of typical units sold now (no upgrades):
I had an opportunity to visit the showroom recently, and their phases west of Spadina are definitely moving more and more upscale. The cheapest of their current phases (IIRC) is selling for around $460-500/sqrft; hard to see these make good candidates as cheap rentals. You can't even get such things as non-stainless steel appliances or non-granite countertops anymore.
Some photos of typical units sold now (no upgrades):
avatarreb
Active Member
Everyone has their own tastes, but I have to say I love the way West One turned out:
Neo/Montage are also coming out well. Oh and hey look there's the street car!
Neo/Montage are also coming out well. Oh and hey look there's the street car!
ganjavih
Senior Member
I was hoping these buildings would have some sort of street presence on Spadina, thereby connecting the city to the waterfront. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened.
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Hydrogen
Guest
Yup, it briefly turns Spadina from a busy street into a wind-swept boulevard. Hopefully future development will liven up the sidewalks.
unimaginative2
Senior Member
I think that the added lanes, constant traffic, and large gap at the rail corridor already make Spadina seem like a windswept boulevard. Actually, the street starts becoming unattractive to pedestrians at King. There's little that addresses the street south of there, and you see very few people walking, despite the park.
adma
Superstar
I hate to say it, but it's almost a situation where Spadina around Cityplace might need a La Defense-style decking-over.
As I said, "I hate to say it".
And as I said, "almost".
As I said, "I hate to say it".
And as I said, "almost".
unimaginative2
Senior Member
It would at least be interesting and different. Toronto has very few significant multilevel urban areas, so it could be cool.
I also really hate to say it, but a Front Street Extension would definitely solve a lot of these problems.
I also really hate to say it, but a Front Street Extension would definitely solve a lot of these problems.
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Hydrogen
Guest
Those are alot of qualifiers, adma.
Flame retardant?
Flame retardant?
Jdot
Active Member
I agree that a Front Street extension would help solve a BIT of the problem. It would also help if Navy Wharf was cut off from Blue Jays Way. There are too many cars travelling down small side streets to get onto the Gardiner. I dont think those roads were ever designed to take on so much rush hour traffic. Simply extend the sidewalk on the south side of Blue Jays Way after it has bent to head east/west to Spadina. Cars cant turn onto Navy Wharf Court to get to Bremner, Spadina and then the Gardiner.
Opening the Simcoe-Lower Simcoe underpass to traffic would also help. I am thinking more and more that it is just going to be a pedestrian underpass as has been mentioned on this board. Only the 2 sides have been dug out. I would have thought the entire width would have been dug at the same time.
Opening the Simcoe-Lower Simcoe underpass to traffic would also help. I am thinking more and more that it is just going to be a pedestrian underpass as has been mentioned on this board. Only the 2 sides have been dug out. I would have thought the entire width would have been dug at the same time.
ProjectEnd
Superstar
Its sad that something which was planned with such passion (St. Jamestown) was allowed slip into its current state - its not as bad as people make it seem but still, reputations make and break neighborhoods...
(CITYPLACE + 20 years = ?!?!?!)
(CITYPLACE + 20 years = ?!?!?!)
Redroom Studios
Senior Member
Ive never really gotten the comparisons between St James Town and City Place. Completely different clientel I would think... the older ghettoized one being fairly cheap rentals while the new one is pricey condos which are for purchase plus monthly maintenance fees. Also completely different construction styles... slab apts vs glass tower. Location will also differentiate them, St. James Town is sort of tucked away in a corner, off the beaten path, while CityPlace is front and center and is an entry point into the city for arriving guests... my opinion anyway.