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Calgary has a lesson for Toronto Transit: try pragmatism

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Calgary has a lesson for Toronto Transit: try pragmatism


03/19/2010

By Adrian Morrow

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When I lived in Calgary, fellow inner-city dwellers constantly complained about our rapid transit system, the C-Train. They admitted that the system worked fine as a commuter train, ferrying suburbanites to the downtown core, but did little to connect the various city centre communities to one another. Why did the Beltline, Calgary's most densely-populated neighbourhood, have just one C-Train stop? Why did Inglewood-Ramsay, the city's historic district, have none? Why couldn't the city build a decent, downtown-focused subway system, like Toronto and Montreal?

I was always curious about this perceived oversight in public transit. So one day, at the end of an interview on a different topic with a member of the city's planning department, I asked him about it. It turned out Calgary did seriously consider building a subway system in the late 1960s and early '70s. The plan called for several downtown stations to be built underground, with the train emerging to the surface for short jaunts into the suburbs. But planners ultimately decided the idea was impractical: the population wasn't dense enough to justify the high cost of putting a train underground.

Instead, the city opted to build a light rail network.

The system runs above ground, primarily in its own right-of-way, fenced off from traffic and pedestrians. Where it intersects with the street, the train has an automatic right-of-way, allowing it to reach subway-like speeds without having to pass underground. The network is laid out in a hub-and-spoke pattern with lines running from the central business district to suburbs in the south, northeast and northwest corners of the city. The suburban stations themselves act as hubs, with buses funnelling commuters to the train.

These strategies have paid off: in the nearly 30 years since it opened, the C-Train has built up a weekday ridership of about 270,000 -- more than any of the numerous American light rail systems that began cropping up around the same time. In the last eight years, under an infrastructure-obsessed mayor, the city has added about 15 kilometres of track and five new stations to the system; eight more are scheduled to open by 2012.

The lesson here is pragmatism. Calgary planners rejected a subway system because it didn't fit with the city. Subways are great for dense metros with a large inner-city populations. But in Calgary, a post-war-style city with the vast majority of the population spread out in sprawling suburbs, it wouldn't make any sense. Planners realized this and developed the C-Train accordingly, as a sort of light rail commuter train. The above-ground design was cheaper to build than a subway, allowing the city to extend the tracks to the city's most distant suburbs rather than blowing the capital budget on subterranean infrastructure.

It's important to keep this lesson in mind as Toronto develops its much larger rapid transit system. The current plan calls for an ambitious expansion of light rail over the next decade; one mayoral candidate is calling for the building of new subway lines instead, another is promising to put rapid transit on hold and a Toronto Life op-ed even suggests privatizing the system.

Toronto has an unusual, mid-western layout, somewhere between the European-style density of Montreal and the car-inspired sprawl of Calgary. Perhaps more than any other city, it needs a pragmatic transit system designed to fit its unique design. One-size-fits-all just doesn't work here. It's a bad idea to build subways in low-density areas where the ridership doesn't make up for the high cost. It's an equally bad idea to save money by building LRTs in areas where high ridership and residential densities would justify a subway.

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I'd take the way Calgary does "LRT" over the way Toronto is doing "LRT". It might not be the greatest in terms of street presence, but it works like rapid transit at least (and it's very practical).
 
I'd take the way Calgary does "LRT" over the way Toronto is doing "LRT". It might not be the greatest in terms of street presence, but it works like rapid transit at least (and it's very practical).

I agree. Both cities may call what they are building "LRT". but that's pretty much where the similarities end.
 
So for the Transit City lines to be more like the C-Train the stations would have to be further apart than what is proposed, and complete priority with the streetlights of course.
 
So for the Transit City lines to be more like the C-Train the stations would have to be further apart than what is proposed, and complete priority with the streetlights of course.

Stations would have to be further apart, stations would be designed as true "stations" with escalators and elevators (rather than simple platforms on opposite sides of an intersection), stations would likely be far from the intersection to better manage the signal priority system, lines would not run in the median of arterial streets 90% of the time, the line would often be separated from streets and neighbourhoods by fencing, tunnels and overpasses would be utilized to avoid major intersections, vehicles would be high-floor with high-floor platforms, etc, etc, etc.

Here, have a look at Rundle C-Train station, on the one section of the C-Train where it runs in the median of an arterial road (like transit city). Notice how it is an actual station, notice how far it is from the adjacent intersections, notice how the ROW make it impossible to jaywalk (unlike Spadina or St. Clair). This station serves a major shopping mall! It looks more like the Spadina subway in the median of Allen Road than a Transit City LRT.

I'm not saying it's better or worse. I'm just saying it is VERY different in execution from Transit City.
 
Stations would have to be further apart, stations would be designed as true "stations" with escalators and elevators (rather than simple platforms on opposite sides of an intersection), stations would likely be far from the intersection to better manage the signal priority system, lines would not run in the median of arterial streets 90% of the time, the line would often be separated from streets and neighbourhoods by fencing, tunnels and overpasses would be utilized to avoid major intersections, vehicles would be high-floor with high-floor platforms, etc, etc, etc.

Here, have a look at Rundle C-Train station, on the one section of the C-Train where it runs in the median of an arterial road (like transit city). Notice how it is an actual station, notice how far it is from the adjacent intersections, notice how the ROW make it impossible to jaywalk (unlike Spadina or St. Clair). This station serves a major shopping mall! It looks more like the Spadina subway in the median of Allen Road than a Transit City LRT.

I'm not saying it's better or worse. I'm just saying it is VERY different in execution from Transit City.

I think if we were getting Calgary-style "LRT" then there would be a lot less opposition to Transit City. I think that kind of "LRT" would work on Eglinton or on Finch, but again, Sheppard already has subway so that shouldn't change. As it is though, the "LRT" we're getting is little more than plain jane trams/streetcars with new rolling stock. Without an exclusive ROW and signal priority, how else can we make our LRTs go faster? By reducing the amount of stops? And then that creates a whole new whack of problems.
 
That's certainly different, but many of our streets aren't that wide. Simple platforms with the 2 rails next to each other to save space could work, if all the other factors associated with the C-Train are at play.
 
That's certainly different, but many of our streets aren't that wide. Simple platforms with the 2 rails next to each other to save space could work, if all the other factors associated with the C-Train are at play.

It's true, most of our streets aren't that wide. Their intersections are also farther apart, the new extension of that line north of Whitehorn runs in/beside a section of road with no intersection for 2.4km! That's a part of why comparisons with Calgary are foolish. Our road system simply isn't designed in such a system that would allow high speed LRT to run in the medians. Also, 90% of the Calgary system doesn't run in median of arterials, anyway. Even though it helps speed things up, I don't think stations far from intersections, barriers to prevent jaywalkers from crossing the street, and far-apart intersections are what we want in Toronto anyway.

But I think that we could learn from their use of tunnels to avoid major intersections (Don Mills and Eglinton notwhithstanding) and a willingness to utilize right-of-way that are not in the median of arterials is something we could learn from.
 
Maybe have the stations underground at the intersections where there are stops could work, would also avoid those traffic lights, and give them priority at the intersections where there are no stops, but then there's the cost.







Yea the C-Train was a good ride, may as well compare that system to riding the San Diego trolley instead.

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When they first announced TC LRT I thought it would be similar to the CTrain and was very excited for Toronto only to find out $10 billion is being spent on a few streetcar lines........................pathetic.
 
I lived in Calgary for Uni 6 years ago... The c-train seems to be a smaller version of the Go train. Most people drive to the stations to take the C-train to work. In toronto most would be happy if the land arround our subway stops was developed instead of being major parking lots. Examples Downsview, Wilson, Eglinton, Kipling, Kenedy, Warden... All stations with tons of parking but no actual street life. The common though is that if these areas were developed it would make toronto more vibrant. PLus weve run out of space so if were going to build dense then arround a subway makes sense. The C-train also has farther stop distances between stops vs our subway. Most people in Toronto who live anywhere close to a subway line can walk to it and the next stop. However I lived close to the ctrain line and 90% of the time felt like I had to take the bus to it, and theres no way I would have walked all the way to the next stop. I liked the C-train for a lot of things but I dont think for most of our lines it makes sense, if any. Calgary is a VERY different city then toronto. Its more like 905. Its very car centralled, big box store, mc mansions, not very pedestrian friendly. The C-train only heps these "qualities."
 

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