Amber (Pinnacle Uptown, 5025 & 5033 Four Springs Av Mississauga, Pinnacle International, 23+26s, Turner Fleischer Architects) COMPLETE

[Jasonzed]

 

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[Jasonzed]

Now at ground level

 

[Bhargavi Patel]

any idea what will be the future project in the empty space (on hurontario side) beside the amber condo being built? condo? townhomes? retail? thx

 

[drum118]

any idea what will be the future project in the empty space (on hurontario side) beside the amber condo being built? condo? townhomes? retail? thx

All that Hurontario area is on hold until the LRT is built as well the water trunk line, but is be taller buildings than what being built, with retail at the base. This also applies to the condo across the street thats before the OMB.

There are more towers to the north of this project and expecting to see the same height as the other ones. All those towers were to be taller, but arm bending took place to reduce them as well the density for the whole area.

There was a report last month calling for the H removal on the lands on the north side of those townhouses so more could be built there.

 

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[Transportfan]

They need some highrises on the east side of Hurontario. Very lopsided.

 

[drum118]

They need some highrises on the east side of Hurontario. Very lopsided.

There a 33s across the street that was appoved years ago and is now at the OMB for some reason. It can't be built like the rest of this site until the waterline and trunk line is completed around 2017.

Both plazas as well the vacant land to the east on Eglinton have plans for towers, but those plans have yet to surface. Another fine example of how not to built development on a major road and build a city for cars.

 

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[Lumber King]

The vacant lands behind the strip mall on the east side all have proposals or approved planning. Just wonder how the designs will be implemented in the coming years.

 

[Transportfan]

Another fine example of how not to built development on a major road and build a city for cars.

This isn't the City Centre. But I think it's odd they built a big plaza on the east side of Hurontario (south of Eg) but high rises on the west.

 

[Tuscani01]

Both plazas as well the vacant land to the east on Eglinton have plans for towers, but those plans have yet to surface. Another fine example of how not to built development on a major road and build a city for cars.

Not really. This is actually exactly how to develop along a major road in a city built for cars. It's way better than building single family residential homes with backyards that face the street.

At the end of the day, these strip malls are disposable structures. They are extremely easy to get rid of vs. single family homes. Their use as strip malls has essentially reserved this land for greater uses in the future.

 

[junctionist]

Not really. This is actually exactly how to develop along a major road in a city built for cars. It's way better than building single family residential homes with backyards that face the street.

At the end of the day, these strip malls are disposable structures. They are extremely easy to get rid of vs. single family homes. Their use as strip malls has essentially reserved this land for greater uses in the future.

While you're right about how much easier it is to redevelop strip malls vs. single family homes with backyards, in practice it happens quite slowly. Most strip malls will be around for at least 50 years, judging by the many examples in the inner suburbs on streets like Eglinton or Lawrence. Once they're built, they tend to function quite well from an economic standpoint. Lots of people drive cars in the suburbs and enjoy the convenience of easy access and free parking.

To build a mixed-use "main street" style building right up to the sidewalk becomes a risky venture. Why take risks when you have a reliable revenue vehicle as a property owner? Even the the older parts of Toronto still have a few strip malls on Queen West, Front Street East and College Street that have stubbornly stuck around in spite of several decades of development pressures. Higher-order transit encourages urban redevelopment of strip malls, but there's only so much higher order transit that gets built each generation.

 

[Tuscani01]

Why take risks when you have a reliable revenue vehicle as a property owner?

Because it won't always be a reliable revenue vehicle, especially as transit is built, traffic increases, and density increases. Remove a lane of traffic along Hurontario for LRT, and you've instantly shrunk their market by increasing travel times for those in cars. The value of the land taken up by parking will be quite a bit of incentive to property owners to re-develop their properties, or sell them off to developers for a large sum.

Sure there are some areas where these strip malls will survive for generations, but I don't see that being the case here where the sites will have direct access to the LRT and face development pressure due to their proximity to City Centre. The landowner is going to want the best use that generates the most income, and single story retail units with massive parking lots won't cut it for long.