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I've learned a lot from this forum. 20 years ago I would've thought the MacDonald Block was dull. Today I see it as one of our finest complexes. Can't wait to see th final result.

The workers are outdoors, in fresh air, young, non-diabetic. Im not concerned if they want to earn a living.

Fair enough I will keep my fingers crossed. I’m also exhausted by this swarming of scolds responding at length about how they cannot be disturbed and that speculation is pointless. Sadly no-one denied the Gehry design isn’t at risk, no-one expressing intuition. Reading between the lines of...

Ok, out of pity for those who are annoyed and yet cannot bring themselves to ignore this conversation let’s close the thread and wait passively for the bad news, assuming there is any news. I am struck by how delicate people are here if they can’t even bear to know a conversation exists which...

Elon Musk finds time to tweet, kid around and play video games. And he’s probably busier than you. In my experience, no-one who talks about how valuable their time is, is correct. In fact your continual interference in our conversation is proof. If I had a dime for everyone who claims to be...

Well, actions have consequences. Think about it: late stage real estate cycle, less wealth from stock market, a strangled Alberta impacting cdn economy. How does a 92 story building proceed in that context? I know you were kidding. But I assure you the urban activists probably don’t know a...

I think there is room for many types of conversations. Almost like a type of open forum. You seek “actual information”, the latest update on Charisma is shoring has started. Personally I have no interest in that project. But I don’t call for threads to be closed because they bore me. M&G is of...

Yes definitely shut down this thread! It’s the Canadian way. Who are we to question the fact the most ambitious condo project in Cdn history has gone radio silent for years.

These were supposed to be the quintessential Toronto towers representing peak architecture from this cycle, making all the glass boxes easier to swallow. The distinct possibility GG perhaps never intended to deliver on the vision is crushing for this city.

Now would be the opportunistic time for Great Gulf to regretfully announce that due to changed condition the project will be deferred, redesigned or scaled back? The global pandemic gives them the excuse they’ve been waiting for?

I believe you are incorrect. Mirvish had intended to secure the financing, was unable, after a longish delay he sold to GG. This is fine, but not what you said. My point was Mirvish is the little guy who thought big, I admire that greatly!

Yes that confused me. Lots of height is already approved for Cumberland Terrace (whatever it’s called now) and it's just one block from 1 Bloor West, at a super major node. I’m repeating myself, but can’t see whats missing?

Yes I was there and spoke in favour of the project. The attendees were mostly in their 60s and 70s and ‘fearful of the noise and congestion which would destroy Yorkville.’ Even though this tower is essentially Bay & Bloor. I had the sense the planners felt personally disrespected by the height...

How does his track record compare to yours, generally ;)

I apologize LMVDR in not being clear. When I meant ‘little guy’ It was in the context of tower development, not fields like theatre. Eg Mirvish would be a ‘little guy’ compared to Oxford Development etc. I’m typing on an iPhone and didn’t make that explicit.

I detest this spirit of attacking the “little guy” with big dreams and aspirations simply because he’s an outsider with less experience. Mirvish and Mizrahi aimed higher than any of the generic builders. Let’s root for them.

I hear what you’re saying, but am not sure you’re correct. There are many exceptional buildings in the world. And they all started with a rendering.

I’m not so sure. It’s rather specific for a zoning exercise? Renderings, designs? Maybe it would evolve but feels like they are planning something architecturally ambitious. Why assume otherwise?

Probably imminent. Planners won’t turn down a tall tower at Bloor & Bay since it’s a major peak. Looks like uptown is getting its mojo back! Fascinated by the colour and undulating lines and height. :)

Is this selling yet, one of best designs I’ve seen. Bay and Bloor is perfect. Maybe sleekest tall tower proposed in city, and not glass, not a box!