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Glad to see this is finally opening just in time for summer cottage/camping. Will be interesting to see how this affects traffic on 401 as it will be free for a year. Inb4 "induced demand" urban planning students come in crying about the DRL.

If you're talking about all of Line 1, you might as well include all of the Gardiner. 427 to Kipling itself carries about ~250,000 vehicles daily. Add those going to Etobicoke/coming from Etobicoke to downtown and beyond you're probably at 500K, easy.

You Cry ME a river! As if a 2 hour subway delay every other month compares with reducing freeway capacity by 33% for 2 years. Comparing auto traffic within a single hour vs other modes will always be very misleading as autos/roads are used for much more than just commuting, at all times of...

Who says the subway extension is in limbo? It's obviously going to happen.

Honestly that sounds like a terrible idea. Pretty much worse than the standard LRT plan in every possible way (cost, noise, accessibility).

Not to mention, the extension to Kipling happened in 1980, almost 40 years ago!! The ridership was probably what, like 2,000 pphd back then? I guess that was a time when politicians and planners actually looked towards the future.

Grasping at straws there... The Gardiner probably has more reverse commuters these days as the downtown population skyrockets, lots of jobs are still outside the core. Downtown job growth is up, but not as much as population. Check out the traffic going into the city in the PM peak - it's...

Aren't most people along the extension path already taking the Yonge subway? They are just busing/driving to Finch to board. So if the line is extended north the gain in passengers may not be significant, and the apocalypse that many posters here are proclaiming won't happen. It will just...

Would it make you feel better if I instead compared a 50 minute GO Train/transit effort to a 30 minute drive? Do you still not realize the point I am getting at?

Snarky comment aside...the point is that the Gardiner can't be removed if no alternatives are in place. Like how that study that showed there would be only a 3 minute delay heading into downtown if the Gardiner is removed (assuming GO RER, Waterfront LRT, DRL, etc. etc. are already built).

Think GO Train + subway/bus/walk etc. The GO Train only goes to Union. Driving is much more flexible. If you really need examples where driving would be considerably faster than taking transit then I can't help you.

Induced demand: If we close the Gardiner people will just move to the Yonge Subway - no capacity issues there! And just because you can easily argue "induced demand", doesn't mean it's good. If we induce someone to take the 1 hour GO Train is this really an improvement over having them drive...

The article is 6 years old. Interesting to see that the issue is still ongoing: https://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Projects/Second_Exit_Projects/Donlands_Station/index.jsp If people can hold up a simple maintenance building for 6 years, imagine what building the DRL will be like! Hopefully it's...

Just walk up King and cross at the pedestrian bridge there?

We should really be building more pedestrian overpasses, like at the major intersections in Vegas. Although our pedestrian volumes may not really be high enough to warrant those.

What probably happened is the city didn't want to pay for a new full road bridge.

The project includes a 120m long, 4m wide pedestrian/cycle bridge to replace 2nd line.

Good point, hopefully riders will have incentive to transfer at Eglinton West instead.

Don't see how this is possible without massive expropriation. Are any above ground plans available? I assume it requires a lot more room than an LRT.

It is a fairly large highway project ($80M) and was just awarded last month, so details like the exact date of the bridge removal are not known yet. But it will be scheduled and advertised well in advance (Highway 401 will be fully closed for a night) and won't be until the Mavis bridge project...