xmyth_
Senior Member
What could the ground floor be doing during the work week
What could the ground floor be doing during the work week
Or just portable kiosks in general. Might be nice to have a sprinkle of other small retail in there too, food related or otherwise.It's a short walk from the financial district, open the doors to licensed food trucks and make it a trendy food hall during the week. Office workers already go to St. Lawrence Market (south) for lunch.
It never ceases to amaze me at how the City is taken by surprise. They have been planning the North Market for 15 years, the construction ended well over a year ago. Why on earth was this not advertised 2 years ago? The City has lost out on 2 years of rental income. (I assume they are now remembering that there was supposed to be a restaurant on the mezzanine level and someone is working on a "Call for Proposals" for that space. Sometimes they do make it easy to see why the City has no money!The city has released a Request for Expression of Interest (REOI) Proposals for Leasing the North Market Café [PDF] with a March 13 deadline for proposals.
I notice the retail area includes some outdoor space in front (I assume the black circles in the diagram on page 21 are supposed to be tables).
Something lively here is much needed. But it's a surprisingly small space, 1200 sqft won't leave much room for indoor seating once a counter and washrooms are built.
But hasn't the plan always been to offer seating inside the market area itself? Unless I'm missing something, the ground floor was intended to be a multi-purpose, people friendly place; freely open to the public. From a food retailer's standpoint, it'd be like being in a food court; where maintenance of the common area and washrooms is the responsibility of the landlord. Do you need a lot of space then?The city has released a Request for Expression of Interest (REOI) Proposals for Leasing the North Market Café [PDF] with a March 13 deadline for proposals.
I notice the retail area includes some outdoor space in front (I assume the black circles in the diagram on page 21 are supposed to be tables).
Something lively here is much needed. But it's a surprisingly small space, 1200 sqft won't leave much room for indoor seating once a counter and washrooms are built.
That would be great, just like the South Market, basically. But I didn't notice anything about that explicitly in the REOI. The diagram does specify that the cafe tenant will need to provide washrooms directly inside the space. Regardless, I imagine a lot of the business will be taken to go, as people wander the markets or go wait for their names to be called in the traffic courts.But hasn't the plan always been to offer seating inside the market area itself? Unless I'm missing something, the ground floor was intended to be a multi-purpose, people friendly place; freely open to the public. From a food retailer's standpoint, it'd be like being in a food court; where maintenance of the common area and washrooms is the responsibility of the landlord. Do you need a lot of space then?
I think the City would ideally like to rent out the main floor 7 days a week. The farmers on Saturdays, maybe a reborn “antiques” market on Sundays and conferences and events on other days. The cafe may get customers from these things but the aim is not to have the cafe spilling into the main rental space.But hasn't the plan always been to offer seating inside the market area itself? Unless I'm missing something, the ground floor was intended to be a multi-purpose, people friendly place; freely open to the public. From a food retailer's standpoint, it'd be like being in a food court; where maintenance of the common area and washrooms is the responsibility of the landlord. Do you need a lot of space then?
Yes, this is because the City hopes, as I note above, to rent the main floor out for 'events'.
Yes, this is because the City hopes, as I note above, to rent the main floor out for 'events'.
You think the City could manage this? Multi function!...and that's what could attract a good tenant. Have a counter facing into the main hall so that during events and the Saturday market, the cafe or bakery can serve patrons. If the event is private and they don't want to use the cafe as one of the caterers for coffee and snacks, then they roll the gate closed for the event.