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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

My god, the nihilism of the Finch West thread is coming here. It's exhausting to read. Can you guys cool it until it launches? Repeating the same points over and over (and bumping the thread without info) is pointless.

The pro-subways-everywhere crowd have found their ideological scapegoat. They were frothing at the mouth this whole time, waiting for any moment to strike.

You better believe that when all the issues with Finch are fixed, they still will lambast it like it still exists on opening day.
 
The pro-subways-everywhere crowd have found their ideological scapegoat. They were frothing at the mouth this whole time, waiting for any moment to strike.

You better believe that when all the issues with Finch are fixed, they still will lambast it like it still exists on opening day.
This misses the point. Finch as an LRT is fine. General sentiment regardless of pro-LRT or pro-subway has been more supportive of Line 6 being LRT. On the other hand, Line 5 is an abomination that was borne of political clownery and rubber stamp post-hoc rationalization consultant reports. You're awfully optimistic that both Lines can be fixed. But everyone's definition of 'fixed' is different. In a best case scenario, Line 6 would reach 34-36 minute travel times for an average speed of 18 km/h. There is no guarantee that this would happen, as it would require more than just stronger TSP. It is virtually impossible for it to go any faster in regular service due to its not-so grade separated median ROW.

Amidst a wider context of budget overruns, construction carbon footprint, uncertain ridership demand, and opportunity costs, that could easily mean fixed or not fixed to two different people.

Paris T9 travel time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVBorWQGPdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWe0PUeTAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY-C8HLdpr8

As has been pointed out recently, the real debate should be between more or less grade separation. The level of grade separation matters way more for speed and reliability. The rolling stock choice of tram/LRT or metro/subway has more to do with the operational economics of the line.
 
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19 Kilometers. 25 new stations. 1 smooth ride.



Line 5 Eglinton is 19 kilometres of light rail transit connecting customers along Eglinton Avenue from Mount Dennis Station in the west to Kennedy Station in the east.


Line 5 Eglinton offers seamless interchange connections to Line 1 (Yonge-University) at Cedarvale and Eglinton stations, Line 2 (Bloor-Danforth) at Kennedy Station along with GO Transit and UP Express connections at Mount Dennis and GO Transit at Kennedy. This much-anticipated new line will provide customers with fast, reliable and convenient transit across Eglinton Avenue.


What to know:


  • Line 5 is 19 kilometres long and will take you from Mount Dennis to Kennedy stations and everywhere in between.
  • Easy connections to TTC Line 1 and Line 2 subways, 68 TTC bus routes, GO Transit and UP Express!
  • Onboard fare payment is not available. Tap your PRESTO, credit or debit card or your mobile wallet BEFORE boarding the vehicle.
  • Vehicles are modern and accessible. They feature level boarding platforms, priority seating and clear audio-visual announcements. Plus, underground stations include elevators from street to track level, wide fare gates, tactile guidance and more.

The fully accessible Line 5 will improve the quality and reliability of TTC service along this busy corridor, supporting the growth of surrounding neighbourhoods and communities.


Check in for more details, including our opening date, over the next few weeks.
Line 5 map
I believe this website page for Line 6 came out about ~3 weeks prior to its opening date... lines up well with Feb 8 for Line 5
 
I believe this website page for Line 6 came out about ~3 weeks prior to its opening date... lines up well with Feb 8 for Line 5
Yes lines up pretty well for February 8... We just need the official City of Toronto and TTC announcement to confirm that. The city is going to go wild once that is announced.

The anticipation is killing me lol, just make the announcement already
 
I believe this website page for Line 6 came out about ~3 weeks prior to its opening date... lines up well with Feb 8 for Line 5
If Line 5 opens with the trams having to wait behind any traffic/pedestrian signals or left turning vehicles we must burn down Metrolinx.
 
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The pro-subways-everywhere crowd have found their ideological scapegoat. They were frothing at the mouth this whole time, waiting for any moment to strike.

You better believe that when all the issues with Finch are fixed, they still will lambast it like it still exists on opening day.
They will never be fixed.

Stop with the copium.
 

19 Kilometers. 25 new stations. 1 smooth ride.



Line 5 Eglinton is 19 kilometres of light rail transit connecting customers along Eglinton Avenue from Mount Dennis Station in the west to Kennedy Station in the east.


Line 5 Eglinton offers seamless interchange connections to Line 1 (Yonge-University) at Cedarvale and Eglinton stations, Line 2 (Bloor-Danforth) at Kennedy Station along with GO Transit and UP Express connections at Mount Dennis and GO Transit at Kennedy. This much-anticipated new line will provide customers with fast, reliable and convenient transit across Eglinton Avenue.


What to know:


  • Line 5 is 19 kilometres long and will take you from Mount Dennis to Kennedy stations and everywhere in between.
  • Easy connections to TTC Line 1 and Line 2 subways, 68 TTC bus routes, GO Transit and UP Express!
  • Onboard fare payment is not available. Tap your PRESTO, credit or debit card or your mobile wallet BEFORE boarding the vehicle.
  • Vehicles are modern and accessible. They feature level boarding platforms, priority seating and clear audio-visual announcements. Plus, underground stations include elevators from street to track level, wide fare gates, tactile guidance and more.

The fully accessible Line 5 will improve the quality and reliability of TTC service along this busy corridor, supporting the growth of surrounding neighbourhoods and communities.


Check in for more details, including our opening date, over the next few weeks.
Line 5 map
Let's see what the TTC has done with its 42 day extension. Delaying a December 28 opening better have been worth it, but all our expectations are low after seeing how they've handled Line 6
 
Let's see what the TTC has done with its 42 day extension. Delaying a December 28 opening better have been worth it, but all our expectations are low after seeing how they've handled Line 6
We're never going to know what would have happened on December 28. This feels like you're pre-writing yourself an excuse to be disappointed even if the launch actually goes okay.
 
We're never going to know what would have happened on December 28. This feels like you're pre-writing yourself an excuse to be disappointed even if the launch actually goes okay.
100% agree with your first sentence. Impossible to know how a December launch would've gone

What I will say is that I won't be disappointed if: i) the surface section feels faster than Line 6; and/or ii) the underground section feels as fast as a subway. I will be disappointed if neither of these things are true because then it feels like the delay had gone to waste, even if I had no idea what things were like in December. Is this rational? Probably not. Yet that is how I, an average person, will feel about this
 

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